The details you mentioned about Cogent and HE are still right. I'm managing an eyeball network and have Cogent in our blend but I also have three other Tier1s and VERY extensive peering (public and private). We have (from the cheapest to most expensive) Cogent, Telia, Zayo and Tata. I have to mention that we're based in Montreal so less choices compared to your market. The only two other Tier1s available in Montrea is GTT and Lumen/CL/Level3. Cogent: difficult relations, good service overall Telia: excellent relations, good service overall Tata: good relations, good service overall Zayo: difficult relations, good service overall
Eric On Feb 17 2021, at 1:49 pm, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > This is from the perspective of an eyeball network. I understand that content > networks would have different objectives and reasons. For instance, I have > little to no reason as an eyeball network to exchange traffic with any other > eyeball network (aside from P2P games). For a content network, getting into > the eyeball networks is their objective. > > My crystal ball tells me this thread will spiral out of control because > people won't be able to keep it on topic, but it is a question that I hear > VERY often. I also expect a lot of purely bad or outdated information to get > thrown out. > > Please try to keep it on topic and not being pedantic over relatively > unimportant details. > > There are two major low-cost providers, Cogent and HE. > > Cogent > Refuses to peer IPv6 with HE > > Refuses to peer IPv6 with Google > > Aggressive sales tactics > > > Hurricane > Doesn't have Cogent IPv6 because of Cogent's refusal > > Lack of communities for anything other than blackholes > > > > I know there are a variety of other providers such as Fusion Network that > operate at similar price points, but are available in way fewer locations. > > What else is out there? Anyone else that isn't 5x, 10x the cost? > > Cogent and HE get looked down upon (and sometimes deservedly so), but when I > talk to someone trying to sell me a port in 350 Cermak for 8x the cost of > Cogent and HE, you better have a very good argument for why you're worth > it... and they never do. "We're not Cogent." "and?" Many times I'm quoted > transit that costs more than Cogent + IX + HE and they don't really have a > good argument for it. > > As an eyeball, I join an IX and there goes 50% - 85% of my traffic and almost > all of my traffic that anyone is going to notice or complain about if there > are issues (video streaming). > > I do understand that enterprise eyeballs may have different requirements. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions (http://www.ics-il.com/) > > > > > > Midwest Internet Exchange (http://www.midwest-ix.com/) > > > > > The Brothers WISP (http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/) > > > > >
