Just so I am clear, you are saying “I would rather have it come over my 
undersea cables than from inside the datacenter”?

And you are assuming TCP transport.

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TTFN,
patrick

> On Apr 1, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Tony Wicks <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> This is not actually (as in yes it does matter) the case, if a file comes 
> from a CDN it is often a close and low latency source that will run up to 
> very high speeds. For example in our case we connect to local peering 
> exchanges (or PNI’s/local caches) at 100G or Nx10G with latency to the end 
> user in the 1-30ms range resulting in very large peaks of local backhaul 
> traffic. If a file is delivers from source or from remote CDN’s/exchanges 
> these are located in other countries with between 25ms (New Zealand to 
> Australia) and 130-200ms (New Zealand to LA/SJC or Singapore) latency, this 
> results in a much slower and normally barely noticeable traffic blip. Yes as 
> an ISP we need to carry the traffic in both cases but the first case can 
> result in a 20-30% local backhaul increase for a couple of hours and in the 
> second case its just BAU traffic for a day or two. Local CDN is obviously the 
> better option for cost and the consumer, but you certainly do notice the 
> traffic in local backhaul.
>  
> From: NANOG <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Tom Beecher
> Sent: Friday, 2 April 2021 10:05 am
> To: Matt Erculiani <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: North American Operators' Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: wow, lots of akamai
>  
>  
> If thousands of users are downloading 50G files at the same time, it really 
> doesn't matter if they are pulling from a CDN or the origin directly. The 
> volume of traffic still has to be handled. Yes, it's a burden on the ISP, but 
> it's a burden created by the usage created by their subscribers. 

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