Hi all,

We (Amazon) have made improvements over the last few years to significantly
improve our NOC and Peering response times, as well as the time it takes to
set up a peering session, whether over IX or direct PNI/SFI.

If you don't get a response from the respective Peering mailing address
listed on our PeeringDB https://peeringdb.com/net/1418 , feel free to email
me privately and I'll get in touch with the right folks internally.

Regards,
Andras


On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 9:40 AM Martin Hannigan <hanni...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> There are also three different ASNs and different policy decision trees;
> they all report selective criteria such as minimum of 10GE, multiple
> locations, specific locations, etc. Not sure it's as simple as 'getting the
> right person' more than it is about meeting the right conditions. Easier
> for network operators. Enterprises may be different (and better off with
> their upstreams or PacketFabric).
>
> YMMV,
>
> -M<
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 5:30 PM Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> "For a company like Amazon..."
>>
>> True, but also, they're at a size where staffing and operating peering
>> operations generously has a negligible impact on the fiscal situation of
>> the company (or even department).
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Kevin Burke" <kbu...@burlingtontelecom.com>
>> *To: *"Lincoln Dale" <l...@interlink.com.au>, "Kelly Littlepage" <
>> ke...@onechronos.com>
>> *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org
>> *Sent: *Friday, February 4, 2022 3:25:53 PM
>> *Subject: *RE: Amazon peering revisited
>>
>> Have gotten into the habit of making annual peering requests to Amazon
>> asking turn up a session on a shared IXP peering.  Once was able to get a
>> peering session turned up, no traffic was ever shifted onto it before we
>> moved out of that carrier hotel a year or so later.  The amazon peering
>> email box does have humans surfing it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Over the years a number of network operators have mentioned getting
>> little response from Amazon about peering requests.
>>
>>
>>
>> For a company like Amazon they have little reason to do peering with
>> small scale operators.  They already peer with the tier 1’s and assume I
>> will do what I need to balance my bits.  The fancy algorithms they use to
>> balance traffic around does allow them to operate a decent network with
>> fewer staff and less links to the small ISPs.  Just a network operator
>> here, trying to get my bytes across the wire.
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy your weekend!
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Burke
>>
>> 802-540-0979
>>
>> Burlington Telecom
>>
>> 200 Church St, Burlington, VT
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+kburke=burlingtontelecom....@nanog.org> *On
>> Behalf Of *Lincoln Dale
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 3, 2022 12:20 PM
>> *To:* Kelly Littlepage <ke...@onechronos.com>
>> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Amazon peering revisited
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM Kelly Littlepage via NANOG <
>> nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, a nanog thread started on November 23, 2018 discussed the
>> challenges of getting Amazon peering sessions turned up. Has anyone had
>> luck since/does anyone have a contact they could refer me to — off-list or
>> otherwise? The process of getting PNI in place with other CSPs was
>> straightforward, but I haven't heard back from AWS after a month and
>> several follow-ups. Our customers would really benefit from us getting this
>> sorted.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are many folks that here that are in AWS. Assuming you have
>> followed what is in https://aws.amazon.com/peering/ (and
>> https://aws.amazon.com/peering/policy/) then send me details privately
>> about what/when/who and I'll reach out internally to the relevant folks.
>>
>>
>>
>>

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