OK the one example you provided has gigabit fiber though. On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 8:41 AM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
> Can you provide examples? >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twe6uTwOyJo&ab_channel=NANOG > > Our good friend Jared could only get 1.5M DSL living just outside Ann > Arbor, MI, so he had to start his own CLEC. > > I have friends in significantly more rural areas than he lives in ( > Niagara and Orleans county NYS , between Niagara Falls and Rochester ) who > have the same 400Mb package from Spectrum that I do, living in the City of > Niagara Falls. > > This is not to say that rural America is a mecca of connectivity; there is > a long way to go all the way around regardless. But it is a direct example > as you asked for. > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:57 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> >There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far >> worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”. >> >> Can you provide examples? >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:51 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> > On Jun 2, 2021, at 02:10 , Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 6/2/21 11:04, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> > >>> >> I disagree… If it could be forced into a standardized format using a >>> standardized approach to data acquisition and reliable comparable results >>> across providers, it could be a very useful adjunct to real competition. >>> > >>> > If we can't even agree on what "minimum speed for U.S. broadband >>> connections" actually means, fat chance having a "nutritional facts" at the >>> back of the "Internet in a tea cup" dropped off at your door step. >>> > >>> > I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm just saying that easily goes down >>> the "what color should we use for the bike shed" territory, while people in >>> rural America still have no or poor Internet access. >>> > >>> > Mark. >>> >>> ROFLMAO… >>> >>> People in Rural America seem to be doing just fine. Most of the ones I >>> know at least have GPON or better. >>> >>> Meanwhile, here in San Jose, a city that bills itself as “The Capital of >>> Silicon Valley”, the best I can get is Comcast (which does finally purport >>> to be Gig down), but rarely delivers that. >>> >>> Yes, anything involving the federal government will get the full bike >>> shed treatment no matter what we do. >>> >>> There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far >>> worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”. >>> >>> Owen >>> >>>