So to clarify/muddy the situation further... Time zones do not fall purely on the 15 degree lines on a globe. As such, the location of the sun overhead is locality specific within a timezone.
Don’t let the enemy of done win here. ;) > On Mar 15, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Brian R <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for finding the clarification on this Ray. > > I'm with the OP Jay that this will cause long term problems. The 15 degrees > is not mentioned in the document just the change from "Standard Time" to > "Daylight Time" permanently (they probably don't even understand it is in 15 > degree increments). This will cause problems in systems across many sectors. > The entire world works on UTC + or - on a 15 degree scale. Except now the > US which will be 15 degree scale -15 degrees. I doubt Canada, Central, or > South Americas are going to follow this so the United States will always be > 15 degrees off of what is considered "Standard Time" by the world. > The better solution would be to remove DST all together and tell everyone in > the US to start work at 07:00 and get off work at 16:00 every day. > > Brian > From: NANOG <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Ray > Van Dolson via NANOG <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:26 PM > To: Mel Beckman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Jay R. Ashworth > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> list <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: RE: "Permanent" DST > > I think this is essentially the bill: > > https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/text > <https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/text> > > Not finding anything about 15 degrees. > > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: NANOG <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Mel Beckman > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:19 PM > To: Jay R. Ashworth <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> list <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST > > I don’t follow why cancelling DST has the effect of moving the US fifteen > degrees to the east. Also, your subject line reads “permanent DST”, but from > your language the bill will be permanent standard time. > > I haven’t read the bill, but I’m hoping you can explain your position more > clearly. > > -mel via cell > > > On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > In a unanimous vote today, the US Senate approved a bill which would > > > > 1) Cancel DST permanently, and > > 2) Move every square inch of US territory 15 degrees to the east. > > > > My opinion of this ought to be obvious from my rhetoric. Hopefully, > > it will fail, because it's likely to be the end of rational time > > worldwide, and even if you do log in UTC, it will still make your life > > difficult. > > > > I'm poleaxed; I can't even decide which grounds to scream about this on... > > > > Hopefully, the House or the White House will be more coherent in their > > decision on this engineering construct. > > > > Cheers, > > -- jra > > > > -- > > Jay R. Ashworth Baylink > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Designer The Things I Think RFC > > 2100 > > Ashworth & Associates > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.bcp38.info__;!!CKZwjTOV!jlq104a9OT4LH-Gk4LCElbaWSsLXzHYDHHpxEqU0OZW56655xb8Df0mA4p1wvA$ > > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.bcp38.info__;!!CKZwjTOV!jlq104a9OT4LH-Gk4LCElbaWSsLXzHYDHHpxEqU0OZW56655xb8Df0mA4p1wvA$> > > [bcp38[.]info] 2000 Land Rover DII > > St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 > > 1274
