If one watches the activity in the tower/outside plant construction side of things, Dish recent went into a burst of activity in hiring tower contractors and signing leases on monopoles, towers and other sites in a "use it or lose it" necessity to have *some* sort of LTE radios actually mounted, powered up and on the air, even if there were no customers connected to the equipment.
They're still doing it as far as I know. On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 at 12:42, na...@jima.us <na...@jima.us> wrote: > Also, to be a little clearer, Dish’s entrance to the cellular world was a > byproduct of the T-Mobile/Sprint merger. There were understandably some > concerns with reducing the nationwide competitive landscape down to three > carriers, so they had to agree to help prop up a replacement competitor. > > > > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+nanog=jima...@nanog.org> *On Behalf Of * > blakan...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2022 00:34 > *To:* Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? > > > > Mike Hammett wrote on 6/24/2022 1:22 PM: > > > It's DirecTV that became part of AT&T, but now they're separated again. > > Dish Network is building a nation-wide terrestrial mobile network. > Supposed to be the new #4 provider. > > > > > Looks like their plans just hit a snag - > D.C. court confirms Dish cheated on 5G spectrum bidding, revokes $3.4 > billion in credits > > https://www.phonearena.com/news/dish-bidding-5g-spectrum-credits-appeal_id140935 > > Court decision on the spectrum was decided 6/21: > > https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/21AC89289C589E4F85258868004F9B7F/$file/18-1209-1951147.pdf > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: > Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image: Image > removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: Image removed by > sender.] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Owen DeLong via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> <nanog@nanog.org> > *To: *"Michael Thomas" <m...@mtcc.com> <m...@mtcc.com> > *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org > *Sent: *Friday, June 24, 2022 3:14:33 PM > *Subject: *Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G? > > > > On Jun 24, 2022, at 13:12 , Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: > > > > > On 6/24/22 12:38 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > > On Jun 24, 2022, at 12:33 , Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: > > > On 6/24/22 9:09 AM, Chris Wright wrote: > > The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined > over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance > was never well understood in the public eye, nor by mass publications like > CNN. This is a battle for 12GHz, not 5G. > > But is what Starlink saying true or not? > > It would be a pity to not have an alternative to incumbent telephants. > > Mike > > It’s not entirely clear, without knowing the technical details of the > Starlink modulation scheme whether or not they could successfully share the > 12Ghz spectrum. > > I have no reason to disbelieve their claims. > > Frankly, I really don’t think that Dish’s idea of providing 5G mobile > service from satellites is a particularly good or beneficial one and > granting them 12Ghz spectrum for this purpose is probably not really in the > public interest. > > I thought they were land based? What I read is that being land based means > that they can transmit at much higher power. > > > > I wasn’t aware that Dish had terrestrial facilities. I had forgotten their > absorption into AT&T. > > > > So I retract my comments in that regard… They are a traditional telephant > and I think that terrestrial 5G on 12Ghz is even less useful. > > > > OTOH, I think Starlink is most definitely an interesting product that does > provide a clear path to reasonable alternatives to the incumbent telephants. > > Especially when you factor in mobility when they get there. No more > roaming fees, all over the world. > > > > Yep… Probably one of the reasons DishT&T is trying to fight so hard to > cause them grief. > > > > Owen > > > > > > >
