On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:45 PM William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:09 PM Rubens Kuhl <rube...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote:
> > > No, the best option for me right now is that I just don't participate
> > > in RPKI and the system has one less participant. And that's a shame.
> >
> > That's only true in the current environment where RPKI is only used to
> > invalidate bogus routes. When any reachability for RPKI-unknowns is
> > lost, that will change.
>
> Hi Rubens,
>
> If you want to bet me on folks ever deciding to discard RPKI-unknowns
> down in the legacy class C's I'll be happy to take your money.

I don't think people will look at even the class, and definitively not
to legacy or non-legacy partitions.
They will either drop it all, or not drop it at all.

Note that when the only IP blocks that spammers and abusers can inject
in the system are non-signed ones, those blocks will get bad
reputations pretty fast. So the legacy holders use case for RPKI might
come sooner than you think.

> Anyway, the risk/reward calculation for NOT signing the LRSA right now
> is really a no-brainer. It's just unfortunate that means I won't get
> an early start on RPKI.

Discarding RPKI-invalids is something you can do right now and that
doesn't come with a price tag. Good BCP38 and RPKI-invalid hygiene is
the thankless gift you can give to the community.


Rubens

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