Why do two different companies with what should be independent networks share an AS number?
On 20 March 2023 18:20:08 UTC, Aaron Wendel <aa...@wholesaleinternet.net> wrote: >The solution to your problem is to terminate the customer causing the abuse, >in this case 62yun.com. Once you do that I'm sure Spamhaus will stop listing >all your IPs. > >Aaron > > >On 3/20/2023 6:54 AM, Brandon Zhi wrote: >> >> >> It seems you've reached the point that they ignore specific >> prefixes and set every prefix you are advertising as criminal. >> >> * >> * >> Our sponsor (LIR) 62yun.com <http://62yun.com>, they have 2 prefixes for >> VPS/Dedicated Server using our ASN.* >> * >> 62yun did receive a lot of complaints, but as far as I know they have been >> handling them (their head said their team is not good at English and so they >> did not reply emails) >> For me, I cannot reply to all emails for them, since I don't have that much >> time. I also need to work for my company. >> >> >> As I understand it, most things at Spamhaus are manual determinations. >> You click on "show details" and they give you a list of timestamped >> report IDs, each with a 1-line description of the reviewer's >> assessment of the fault. >> >> >> I checked https://check.spamhaus.org/listed/?searchterm=46.23.100.0 and the >> reason they gave us was simple, saying our not willing to handle abuse. but >> we stressed with them many times that we are 2 different companies. We also >> do not have the authority to handle these complaints, but we will alert >> 62yun.com <http://62yun.com>. >> >> But they still intend to blacklist all the prefixes under our ORG ID, even >> if the user is not us. >> >> >> Based on my past experiences, Spamhaus is rather gracious at >> first, but if you ignore them, they will start blocking you en >> masse. About 10 years ago, I worked for a datacenter/NSP and >> personally handled all Spamhaus complaints, and as soon as I left >> to go to another company (and the company stopped taking care of >> the complaints), Spamhaus blocked every single one of their IPs >> until they committed to actually handling the complaints again. >> >> >> >> This has little impact on 62yun.com <http://62yun.com>'s VPS business, and >> my feeling is that if someone uses their VPS to build a mail server those >> emails that are sent from this server may be rejected. >> >> However, we are recently building a CDN for one of our partners (a social >> media company), and we need to use a provider like vultr, which is not >> really an IP Transit provider, to announce prefixes, however, they reject >> prefixes on the Spamhaus list. >> >> I don't think any ISP would reject an IP that is on the Spamhaus list. >> >> >> *Brandon Zhi* >> HUIZE LTD >> >> www.huize.asia <https://huize.asia/>| www.ixp.su <https://www.ixp.su/> | >> Twitter >> >> >> This e-mail and any attachments or any reproduction of this e-mail in >> whatever manner are confidential and for the use of the addressee(s) only. >> HUIZE LTD can’t take any liability and guarantee of the text of the email >> message and virus. >> >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 02:29, Tim Burke <t...@mid.net> wrote: >> >> Have you received complaints from Spamhaus in the past? If so, >> have you acted on them in a timely manner? >> >> Based on my past experiences, Spamhaus is rather gracious at >> first, but if you ignore them, they will start blocking you en >> masse. About 10 years ago, I worked for a datacenter/NSP and >> personally handled all Spamhaus complaints, and as soon as I left >> to go to another company (and the company stopped taking care of >> the complaints), Spamhaus blocked every single one of their IPs >> until they committed to actually handling the complaints again. >> >> V/r >> Tim >> >> >>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 8:57 AM, Brandon Zhi <bran...@huize.asia> wrote: >>> >>> Hello guy, >>> >>> We recently discovered that any IP address announced by our ASN >>> is blacklisted by Spamhaus, even if we only announced it but not >>> use it. >>> >>> I would like to ask if this is manually set by Spamhaus or is the >>> system misjudgment? Has anyone encountered the same situation as us? >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> *Brandon Zhi* >>> HUIZE LTD >>> >>> www.huize.asia <https://huize.asia/>| www.ixp.su >>> <https://www.ixp.su/> | Twitter >>> >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments or any reproduction of this >>> e-mail in whatever manner are confidential and for the use of the >>> addressee(s) only. HUIZE LTD can’t take any liability and >>> guarantee of the text of the email message and virus. >>> >> > >-- >================================================================ >Aaron Wendel >Chief Technical Officer >Wholesale Internet, Inc. (AS 32097) >(816)550-9030 >http://www.wholesaleinternet.com >================================================================ > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
