Yeah, that is kind of why I said "Whatever Noction is doing" in the original 
post.

I'm not really calling to resurrect Noction. I'm saying that BGP path selection 
could be better and it's kind of silly that it's 2024 and things are still 
being handled by a static tie breaker.

Thanks,
-Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Niels 
Bakker
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 3:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Route optimization using GPUs?

* [email protected] (Mike Hammett) [Thu 05 Dec 2024, 21:32 CET]:
>Not by the box, but by the operator of the box.

We've been over this numerous times around the time when that Honest Networker 
page in my email was created. Noction ship their boxes with insanely dangerous 
defaults that are bound to lead to catastrophic route leaks. "Unsafe at any 
speed" applies to the whole category but especially to that implementation.

I don't know if they've improved or lost business since. Their major 
accomplishment as a company may turn out to be, unintended though it may be, 
hastening the global acceptance and rollout of RPKI OV.


        -- Niels.

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