> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:19 AM
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Dobbins, Roland <rdobb...@arbor.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Additional mitigation would be  via manual or automatic RTBH or
> security/abuse@ involvement with upstreams.
> >
> > Automagic is generally bad, as it can be gamed.
> 
> ... and manual wont scale in ddos

There are pros and cons to each approach.  Certain types of things can be 
automated, in fact I've done this using the Auto-mitigate feature in Arbor 
coupled with pre-configured mitigation templates for certain types of traffic 
and it works very well.  But generally, as Roland mentioned automagic stuff can 
be gamed and for the majority of the stuff you are going to want an operator to 
look at the alert before making the decision to offramp.

The trick is to try to automate as much around the process as possible - I've 
worked in environments where just making little changes to incident handling 
response methods reduced the time to mitigate an attack from hours to minutes, 
all the while still requiring an operator to press the "big red button" to 
offramp and enable the mitigation.

Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIE-M/T
www.shortestpathfirst.net
GPG Key ID: 0xB5E3803D


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