On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net> wrote:
> Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits....
>

(I think joel's point was: "peer with amazon, done-and-done")

> Faisal
>
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote:
>
>> Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. What 
>> would peering with them achieve?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 18:06, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Which leads to a question to be asked...
>>>
>>> Is netflix willing to peer directly with ISP / NSP's ?
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2011 7:29 PM, Dave Temkin wrote:
>>>> Feel free to contact peering@netflix<dot>com - we're happy to provide you 
>>>> with delivery statistics for traffic terminating on your network.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Dave Temkin
>>>> Netflix
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/11 8:57 AM, Blake Hudson wrote:
>>>>> Yeah, that's an interesting one. We currently utilize netflow for this, 
>>>>> but you also need to consider that netflix streaming is just port 80 www 
>>>>> traffic. Because netflix uses CDNs, its difficult to pin down the traffic 
>>>>> to specific hosts in the CDN and say that this traffic was netflix, while 
>>>>> this traffic was the latest windows update (remember this is often a 
>>>>> shared hosting platform). We've done our own testing and have come to a 
>>>>> good solution which uses a combination of nbar, packet marking, and 
>>>>> netflow to come to a conclusion. On a ~160Mbps link, netflix peaks out 
>>>>> between 30-50Mbps around 8-10PM each evening. The rest of the traffic is 
>>>>> predominantly other forms of HTTP traffic (including other video 
>>>>> streaming services).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin Hepworth wrote the following on 12/3/2011 2:36 AM:
>>>>>> Also checkout Adrian Cockcroft presentations on their architecture which
>>>>>> describes how they use aws and CDns etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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