On 12/11/11 19:49 , Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net> wrote:
>> Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits....
>> 
> (I think joel's point was: "peer with amazon, done-and-done")

also probably your relationships to akamai and level3

>> Faisal
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. What 
>>> would peering with them achieve?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 18:06, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which leads to a question to be asked...
>>>>
>>>> Is netflix willing to peer directly with ISP / NSP's ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/11/2011 7:29 PM, Dave Temkin wrote:
>>>>> Feel free to contact peering@netflix<dot>com - we're happy to provide you 
>>>>> with delivery statistics for traffic terminating on your network.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> -Dave Temkin
>>>>> Netflix
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/7/11 8:57 AM, Blake Hudson wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah, that's an interesting one. We currently utilize netflow for this, 
>>>>>> but you also need to consider that netflix streaming is just port 80 www 
>>>>>> traffic. Because netflix uses CDNs, its difficult to pin down the 
>>>>>> traffic to specific hosts in the CDN and say that this traffic was 
>>>>>> netflix, while this traffic was the latest windows update (remember this 
>>>>>> is often a shared hosting platform). We've done our own testing and have 
>>>>>> come to a good solution which uses a combination of nbar, packet 
>>>>>> marking, and netflow to come to a conclusion. On a ~160Mbps link, 
>>>>>> netflix peaks out between 30-50Mbps around 8-10PM each evening. The rest 
>>>>>> of the traffic is predominantly other forms of HTTP traffic (including 
>>>>>> other video streaming services).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin Hepworth wrote the following on 12/3/2011 2:36 AM:
>>>>>>> Also checkout Adrian Cockcroft presentations on their architecture which
>>>>>>> describes how they use aws and CDns etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>
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