> There is indeed a difference between Europe (or is it only .SE?) and
> USA here; no bank in Sweden lets you login without at least a client
> certificate and password/pin code. Most banks have a hardware token,
> either challenge-response or HOTP/TOTP; some use the chip in chip-and-pin
> cards as certificate carrier, and combine it with a reader device to
> manage pin code entry.

Can't speak for Europe as a whole, but certainly in the UK it's not common - 
and I wish it was.  I do have different passwords for my banking and other 
finance-type sites (pensions etc), both for each site and distinct from my 
"fuzzykittens" passwords (which do re-use a handful of variations on a couple 
of themes).  A hardware token would be very nice though.

Client cert worries me a bit - while it *should* be standards-based, I'm sure 
there's some way to implement it such that it only works on Windows.  Given how 
long it took for banks to stop with the "Safari! Evil! Access denied!" routine, 
I don't hold much faith in their willingness or ability to build cross-platform 
solutions.

Grumble for the day: Santander, who require so many different IDs, logins, 
codes, reference numbers etc to access their on-line services with no 
indication at all of how any of them relate to the documentation previously 
sent or any changes made since, that there's no way to deal with it other than 
to write them down.  Oh, and some more different codes, with more different 
names, to access the same account by telephone.  Strongly not recommended.

Regards,
Tim.

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