Greetings Dave,

        Having been one of the authors of this, and, at the time, unfortunately 
looking down the barrel of a CGN deployment (in AU).  I can say, at least in 
our case, it had nothing to do with monitoring or intercept.  In fact, CGN 
actually made that more difficult in some circumstances.  And this was a 
carrier that definitely had that requirement.

        Chris

On 17Mar2012, at 10.33, Dave Edelman wrote:

> Some major stakeholders are under legal or regulatory obligation to supervise 
> and control. A small number of control points makes this less awful to 
> effect. 
> 
> Dave Edelman
> 
> 
> On Mar 16, 2012, at 16:21, "cdel.firsthand.net" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> NAT at the edge is one thing as it gives an easy to sell security 
>> proposition for the board. But CGN controlled by whoever sitting between 
>> their NATs does the opposite. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Christian de Larrinaga
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 Mar 2012, at 19:35, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Octavio Alvarez
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:22:04 -0700, Christopher Morrow
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> NetRange:       100.64.0.0 - 100.127.255.255
>>>>> CIDR:           100.64.0.0/10
>>>>> OriginAS:
>>>>> NetName:        SHARED-ADDRESS-SPACE-RFCTBD-IANA-RESERVED
>>>> 
>>>> Weren't we supposed to *solve* the end-to-end connectivity problem,
>>>> instead of just letting it live?
>>> 
>>> "We" forgot to ask if all the stakeholders wanted it solved. Most
>>> self-styled "enterprise" operators don't: they want a major control
>>> point at the network border. Deliberately breaking end to end makes
>>> that control more certain. Which is why they deployed IPv4 NAT boxen
>>> long before address scarcity became an impactful issue.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Bill Herrin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
>>> 
>> 
> 

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