On 8/16/2013 12:46 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Aug 16, 2013, at 00:37 , Sean Donelan <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Seth Mattinen wrote:
We'll also need this data in units of number of Libraries of Congress.
The researchers at the Library of Congress are more than happy to explain why 
you are wrong to attempt to use the Library of Congress as a unit of measure, 
and why the estimates being used are wrong.

http://blogs.loc.gov/digitalpreservation/2011/07/transferring-libraries-of-congress-of-data/

along with several other blog posts over the years.

But it doesn't seem to stop people from wanting to 1) know how big the Library 
of Congress is and 2) using it as a unit of measure.

It seems odd that there are relatively good estimates for other communication 
networks and utilities; i.e. how big is the PSTN, how many television or radio 
stations, how much freight is carried by railroads, trucks and ships.  But 
asking how big is the Internet, how much data does it carry, ends up with no 
answer.

Even the researchers at the Library of Congress, if you give them enough beer 
and beg them enough, will eventually give you an estimate
about the Library collection size as of the end of the last year.

What so special about the Internet that it can't be measured?
Complete lack of regulation, and in many cases, even billing.

You cannot make a call on the PSTN without someone getting money from someone else and a 
CDR (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_detail_record>) being created. Television 
& radio stations are trivially countable and probably literally a a dozen or more 
orders of magnitude off the number of packets on the Internet. Railroads are similarly 
tiny in number and bill for freight. Roads are built by taxpayer dollars, so the gov't 
keeps a good account. Etc., etc.

The Internet is the first world-wide "thing" that doesn't bill based on where 
you send something, what you are doing, why you do it, and in many cases, even how much 
you do. Moreover, anyone can set up anything on it without asking the gov't for 
permission.

This has enabled the impossible growth curve seen the last 20 years, but also made 
it impossible to count, categorize, or control. Which pisses off some people 
(usually governments), but makes others (e.g. me!) all warm & fuzzy inside.

That's probably the best answer, but I'd add that nobody has gathered sufficient quantities of beer to give to the for-profit companies that are in a position to gather the requested data. If somebody wants to collect that much beer, what would the rest of us drink?

--
Dave

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