You can request a fully working IPv6 implementation, but it's not going to stop 
a purchasing if it doesn't. If you are deciding between two vendors and one is 
better/cheaper and doesn't have IPv6 and you choose the other, it's likely you 
will be looking for another job. There is no strong justification for deploying 
IPv6 in a corporate enterprise currently. Corporate world is focused on the 
next quarter, not at a 10 year horizon.

We decided to  roll it out for a number of reasons. One, we had time this 
summer. Two, we figured it would highlight inherent issues already in our 
environment (it did, and we found a few doozies), and finally it was a good 
intellectual exercise. We have it running on all over our desktops, and most of 
our servers (some issues with license management software and other legacy 
software prevents us from deploying it on all servers)

If we had an orderly shutdown of our IPv6 environment, there would be zero 
impact to the business. In fact, due to complexity issues, it would arguably we 
would arguably be better off without it. Perhaps in a few years things will be 
different. My bet is that even in 5 years, corporate adoption will be very 
small, maybe as low as 10%.




On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote:

> 
> In message 
> <CAL9jLaa=qkumlc7djtmru92f3tqcyp3ehr060nrcfkg-ho+...@mail.gmail.com>, 
> Christopher Morrow writes:
>>> 
>>> Not all devices have working IPv6 stacks. OK, they're broken, complain
>>> to the vendor and get them to fix their product or buy a working product
>>> from a different vendor.
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't know that this is a practical option... for say some systems I
>> know that don't do v6 properly or at all, and which have buying cycles
>> on the 10yr horizon, not 2yrs/etc.
> 
> And I hate to say it but people have been saying for over a decade.
> 
>       * request support IPv6 in the products you are purchasing.
>       * test the IPv6 support.
>       * report the bugs found so they can be fixed.
> 
> This situation was foreseen.  Too many people just left this for
> later and later is here now and the fixes will come too late for
> some.
> 
>> BUT... so what? you can do v4/v6 on the same LAN, right? just only use
>> the v4 bits for those devices?
>> 
>> I don't think 'eh, toss out your crap, buy new crap' is the right
>> message to send. 'you can cohabitate, this isn't virginia' is though.
>> 
>> -chris
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