Ok, so the right way to do it is in iBGP.  That pretty much answers the 
question - don't redistribute those ixp-participant prefixes into my IGP.

I have a lot of iBGP homework to do, to make it work with the 5 POPs that are 
all taking full route feeds.  I tried once and couldn't get the BGP tables 
working correctly with a full mesh of the 5 routers, so it looks like time to 
try it again, this time with a route reflector.  





>________________________________
> From: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]>
>To: Eric A Louie <[email protected]> 
>Cc: Patrick W. Gilmore <[email protected]>; NANOG list <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:37 PM
>Subject: Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes
> 
>
>On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Eric A Louie <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thank you - I will heed the warning.  I want to be a good community member 
>> and make sure we're maintaining the agreed-upon practices (I'll 
>> re-read/review my agreement with the IXP)
>>
>>
>> So if that is the case, I have to rely on the peering fabric to just return 
>> traffic, since the rest of my network (save the directly connected router) 
>> will not know about those routes outbound?  And what about my customers who 
>> are counting on me routing their office traffic through my network into the 
>> peering fabric to their properties?  (I have one specifically who is 
>> eventually looking for that capability)  Do I have to provide them some sort 
>> of VPN to make that happen across my network to the peering fabric router?
>>
>
>perhaps I'm confused, but you have sort of this situation:
>  ixp-participants -> ixp -> your-router -> your-network -> your-customer
>
>you get routes for ixp-participants from 'ixp'
>you send to the 'ixp' (and on to 'ixp-participants') routes for
>'your-customer' and 'your-network'
>
>right?
>
>then so long as you send 'your-customer' the routes you learn from
>'ixp' (which you set 'next-hop-self' on in ibgp from 'your-router' to
>'your-network' (in the ibgp-mesh that you will setup) ... everything
>just works.
>
>All routers behind 'your-router' in 'your-netowrk' see
>'ixp-participants' with a next-hop of 'your-router' who still knows
>'send to ixp!' for the route(s) in question.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Patrick W. Gilmore <[email protected]>
>>>To: NANOG list <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:11 PM
>>>Subject: Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes
>>>
>>>
>>>Pardon the top post, but I really don't have anything to comment below other 
>>>than to agree with Chris and say rfc5963 is broken.
>>>
>>>NEVER EVER EVER put an IX prefix into BGP, IGP, or even static route. An IXP 
>>>LAN should not be reachable from any device not directly attached to that 
>>>LAN. Period.
>>>
>>>Doing so endangers your peers & the IX itself. It is on the order of not 
>>>implementing BCP38, except no one has the (lame, ridiculous, idiotic, and 
>>>pure cost-shifting BS) excuse that they "can't" do this.
>>>
>>>--
>>>TTFN,
>>>patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>On Jan 14, 2014, at 21:22 , Christopher Morrow <[email protected]> 
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Cb B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 14, 2014 6:01 PM, "Eric A Louie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a connection to a peering fabric and I'm not distributing the
>>>>> peering fabric routes into my network.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> good plan.
>>>>
>>>>>> I see three options
>>>>>> 1. redistribute into my igp (OSPF)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. configure ibgp and route them within that infrastructure.  All the
>>>>> default routes go out through the POPs so iBGP would see packets destined
>>>>> for the peering fabric and route it that-a-way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. leave it "as is", and let the outbound traffic go out my upstreams and
>>>>> the inbound traffic come back through the peering fabric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. all peering-fabric routes get next-hop-self on your peering router
>>>> before going into ibgp...
>>>> all the rest of your network sees your local loopback as nexthop and
>>>> things just work.
>>>>
>>>>>> Advantages and disadvantages, pros and cons?  Recommendations?
>>>>> Experiences, good and bad?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have 5 POPs, 2 OSPF areas, and have not brought iBGP up between the
>>>>> POPs yet.  That's another issue completely from a planning perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5963
>>>>>
>>>>> I like no-export
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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