On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu> wrote: > On Thursday, April 03, 2014 02:51:20 PM Randy Bush wrote: > >> you want revenge or to prevent the effects of recurrence? > > I'd like to consider targeted suggestions for fixes that > address the specific challenges affecting "seasoned" > upstreams vs. their downstream customers.
at this point it's hard to come up with a suggestion aside from: "stop being negligent" :( if after so many incidents and so many years, and seeing so many of your friends trip on the stairs and break an arm, you'd think providers would route-filter their customers just to avoid going to the hospital. > I can understand how an ISP with relatively little > experience can mess this up (and glad to help here to > educate wherever possible). But if an "established" provider > is still struggling with this, why is that? I'm going to guess: 1) who's going to pay for the filtering setup work? 2) we have always done it this way... why change? 3) adrenaline rush? >> one nice thing about origin validation is that anyone who >> validates anywhere on the internet can reject the >> mis-origination(s). > > +1. > > Mark.