----- Original Message ----- > From: "Miles Fidelman" <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>
> Jay Ashworth wrote: > > [ As you might imagine, this is a bit of a hobby horse for me; Verizon's > behavior about municipally owned fiber, and it's attempts to convert > post- Sandy customers in NYS from regulated copper to unregulated FiOS > service leave a pretty bad taste in my mouth about VZN. ] > > Jay, > Quite agree with you on this stuff. I used to spend a good part of my > time working with municipalities on planning fiber builds - so VZ's > behavior on those matters leave a pretty bad taste in my mouth too. > But.. that's kind of a different issue, wouldn't you say? Certainly. Just full disclosure: I'm as motivated to reply to this as I am *because* I already have a hard-on for VZN. :-) > Am I obtuse or does it all boil down to: > > 1. If both Netflix customers, and Netflix all connected to a single > network - customers would be paying for their access connections, and > Netflix would be paying for a pipe big enough to handle the aggregate > demand. Correct. > 2. The issue is that customers connect to one network (actually multiple > networks, but lets stick with Verizon for now), and pay Verizon; Netflix > buys aggregate capacity into other networks; with one or more transit > networks in the middle. > > 3. Somebody has to pay for what's in the middle (ports into transit > networks, bandwidth across them). Those are additional costs, that > wouldn't exist if everyone were connected to the same network. > > 4. Both parties can make reasonable claims about why the other guys > should pay. There's argument about whether VZN's claims are reasonable, and I tend to fall on the "they are not, even though I don't like VZN anyway" side; this thread was as much a sanity check as anything. > 5. Verizon and Comcast are big enough to say "Netflix pays" - with > Netflix making a visible stink about it. Yup. > 6. Netflix is important enough to end users, that Netflix can tell the > little guys "you pay." And yes, they're making it a little easier by > providing the CDN boxes. Fair amount easier I would say, but I don't think we have enough empirical evidence either way, at least not in this thread. > 7. In the absence of some reasonably balanced formal policies and > regulations about settlements - we're going to keep seeing this kind > of stuff. I hope that it doesn't come to that. Regulation is horrible. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274