Always getting blamed for Cogent stuff, no worries. ;-) - JL
On 9/10/15, 2:23 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Lyon" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: >My apologies, Comcast, I have an itchy trigger finger > >A little googling indicates that the mail server that was listed on that >bounced email is a COGENT email server, not Comcast, > >My apologies for that. > >-Mike > > >On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Mike Lyon <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Really Comcast? Your spam software SUCKS ASS! >> >> For those interested, the word that violated their spam software was >>"damn" >> >> -Mike >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >> >> This email has violated the PROFANITY. >> and Pass has been taken on 9/10/2015 1:34:19 PM. >> Message details: >> Server: BUPMEXCASHUB2 >> Sender: [email protected]; >> Recipient: >> [email protected];[email protected]; >> [email protected];[email protected]; >> Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles >> >> >> The information in this message, including in all attachments, is >> confidential or privileged. In the event you have received this message >>in >> error >> and are not the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any use, >> copying >> or reproduction of this document is strictly forbidden. Please notify >> immediately the sender of this error and destroy this message, including >> its >> attachments, as the case may be. >> </P> >> L'information apparaissant dans ce message electronique et dans les >> documents >> qui y sont joints est de nature confidentielle ou privilegiee. Si ce >> message >> vous est parvenu par erreur et que vous n'en etes pas le destinataire >> vise, vous >> etes par les presentes avise que toute utilisation, copie ou >>distribution >> de ce >> message est strictement interdite. Vous etes donc prie d¹en informer >> immediatement l¹expediteur et de detruire ce message, ainsi que les >> documents >> qui y sont joints, le cas echeant. >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Mike Lyon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A few dozen? Damn, you are lucy, Mike! >>> >>> I did an install the other day, a good 60-70 XfinityWifi SSIDs popped >>>up. >>> >>> Reminds me of the Good 'Ole CB days back in the 80's where everyone >>> talked over each other and played background music and such... >>> >>> That's a big 10-4 and I got a Smokey on my trail! >>> >>> -Mike >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>wrote: >>> >>>> The tower-deployed AP can see the cable wireless APs for miles and can >>>> see a few dozen of them at any one time. Given the goal of full >>>>modulation >>>> at all times for optimal use of spectrum and dollars, the ever >>>>increasing >>>> noise from the cable APs makes this a challenge. You need 25 to 30 dB >>>>to >>>> maintain full modulation and that's increasingly difficult when you >>>>hear >>>> cable APs everywhere at -70. >>>> >>>> The APs can't have narrow radiation patterns given that they need to >>>> cover a roughly 90* area of where the customers are. An 18 to 20 dB >>>>gain >>>> sector antenna will pick up those cable radios from pretty far away. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: "Scott Helms" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "Jared Mauch" <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>, "Corey Petrulich" < >>>> [email protected]>, "Kenneth Falkenstein" < >>>> [email protected]>, "NANOG mailing list" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:00:41 AM >>>> Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles >>>> >>>> >>>> This sounds like a hypothetical complaint, AFAIK none of the members >>>>of >>>> the CableWiFi consortium are deploying APs outside of their footprint. >>>> Since most of the APs use a cable modem for their backhaul it's not >>>>really >>>> feasible to be without at least one broadband option (the cable MSO) >>>>and be >>>> impaired by the CableWiFi APs. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now, there is one potential exception to this I'm aware of which is >>>> Comcast's Xfinity on Campus service, but I'd expect the number of >>>>colleges >>>> they're servicing that aren't already getting cable broadband service >>>>to >>>> approach zero. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20150909_Comcast_streams_onto_col >>>>lege_campuses.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://xfinityoncampus.com/login >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Having said all of that, I'd agree that a good radio resource >>>>management >>>> approach would benefit all of us, including the CableWiFi guys. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.cablelabs.com/wi-fi-radio-resource-management-rrm/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott Helms >>>> Vice President of Technology >>>> ZCorum >>>> (678) 507-5000 >>>> -------------------------------- >>>> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms >>>> -------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Jared Mauch < [email protected] >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > >>>>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > 5 GHz noise levels affecting people whose primary means of Internet >>>> access is via fixed wireless . >>>> > >>>> >>>> This is a huge deal for those people like myself that depend on fixed >>>> wireless for access at home because there is no broadband available >>>>despite >>>> incentives given by cities and states and the federal government. >>>> >>>> The local WISPs are good at coordinating access in these ISM bands >>>> amongst themselves but when someone appears with a SSID without doing >>>>a >>>> peek at the spectrum (note: not a site survey, but actual spectrum >>>>view w/ >>>> waterfall, as site survey only checks for the channel width that the >>>>client >>>> radio is configured for, not al the 10, 15, 8, 30mhz wide variants). >>>> >>>> It¹s just poor practice to show up and break something else because >>>>you >>>> can¹t be bothered to notice the interference or noise floor you >>>>created. I >>>> suspect the hardware that Comcast is using doesn¹t notice this >>>>interference >>>> or adjacent channel issues. With the FCC aiming to let cell carriers >>>>also >>>> clog the 5ghz ISM band it¹s only going to get worse. >>>> >>>> - Jared >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Lyon >>> 408-621-4826 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Lyon >> 408-621-4826 >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon >> >> >> >> > > >-- >Mike Lyon >408-621-4826 >[email protected] > >http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
