Well In Montreal, QC, CA...

    You can get Room, Cage, Full, 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8th from Metro Optic.

    You lose about 1U for the physical separation, but when you only
need a few U's for a pair of routers...

    They also have connections with a local rack maker that can make you
whatever you need.

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Alain Hebert                                [email protected]   
PubNIX Inc.        
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770     Beaconsfield, Quebec     H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.net    Fax: 514-990-9443

On 02/14/16 08:48, Mike Hammett wrote:
> *nods* I've seen half and third cabinet designs employed in a couple 
> datacenters. I've seen product sheets for quarter and sixth rack (with the 
> sixth introduced in this thread). 
>
> To me, those seem like ideal cabinets to put in MMRs, which traditionally 
> have full cabinets. By count of networks, there are far more networks that 
> employ routers smaller than say 4U than there are ones that use larger than 
> say 12U. 
>
>
>
>
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
>
> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Chris Woodfield" <[email protected]> 
> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> 
> Cc: "Bevan Slattery" <[email protected]>, "North American Network 
> Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:33:04 PM 
> Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security" 
>
> I've seen colos sell half-racks where both the top and bottoms of the racks 
> have their own cabinet doors. It's not a common thing though. 
>
> -C 
>
>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 18:58, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>
>> There are more options when you're not just using someone else's datacenter. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>>
>> Midwest-IX 
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>> From: "Bevan Slattery" <[email protected]> 
>> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> 
>> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:44:34 PM 
>> Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security" 
>>
>> In a past life we worked with our supplier to create physically separate 
>> sub-enclosures.1/2 and 1/3. Able to build in a separate and secure cable 
>> path for interconnects to the meet-me-room and connection to power supplies. 
>>
>> Can be done and I think there are now rack suppliers that do this as 
>> standard. Been out of DC space for a few years now. 
>>
>> [b] 
>>
>>> On 13 Feb 2016, at 6:58 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> That moment when you hit send and remember a couple things… 
>>>
>>> Of course labeling of the cables. 
>>>
>>> Maybe colored wire loom for fiber and DACs in the vertical spaces to go 
>>> along with the previously mentioned color scheme? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- 
>>> Mike Hammett 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>>>
>>> Midwest-IX 
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> 
>>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:53:17 PM 
>>> Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security" 
>>>
>>>
>>> I am finding a bunch of covers for the front. I do wish they stuck out more 
>>> than an inch (like two). 
>>> http://www.middleatlantic.com/~/media/middleatlantic/documents/techdocs/s_sf%20series%20security%20covers_96-035/96_035s_sf.ashx
>>>  
>>>
>>> It looks like these guys stick out 1.5”. That may be workable… 
>>> http://www.lowellmfg.com/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/filemanager/files/1717-SSCV.pdf
>>>  
>>>
>>> I guess those covers are really only useful for servers. That really 
>>> wouldn’t work with a switch\router. Switches and routers are going to be 
>>> the bulk of what we’re dealing with. 
>>>
>>> I am finding locking power cables, but that seems to be specific to the PDU 
>>> you’re using as it requires the other half of the lock on the PDU. 
>>>
>>> I did come across colored power cords. I wonder with some enforced cable 
>>> management, colored power cables, etc. we would have “good enough”? You get 
>>> some 1U or 2U cable organizers, require cables to be secured to the 
>>> management, vertical cables in shared spaces are bound together by 
>>> customer, color of Velcro matches color of the power cord? Blue customer, 
>>> green customer, red customer, etc. Could do the cat6 patch cables that way 
>>> too, but that gets lost when moving to glass or DACs. 
>>>
>>> I thought about a web cam that would record anyone coming into the cabinet, 
>>> but Equinix doesn’t really allow pictures in their facilities, so that’s 
>>> not going to fly. Door contacts should be helpful for an audit log of at 
>>> least when the doors were opened or closed. 
>>>
>>> Financial penalty from the violator to the victim if there’s an uh oh? 
>>>
>>> I’m not trying to save someone from themselves. I’m not trying to lock the 
>>> whole thing down. Just trying to prevent mistakes in a shared space. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- 
>>> Mike Hammett 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>>>
>>> Midwest-IX 
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> 
>>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:59:08 AM 
>>> Subject: Shared cabinet "security" 
>>>
>>> I say "security" because I know that in a shared space, nothing is 
>>> completely secure. I also know that with enough intent, someone will 
>>> accomplish whatever they set out to do regarding breaking something of 
>>> someone else's. My concern is mainly towards mitigation of accidents. This 
>>> could even apply to a certain degree to things within your own space and 
>>> your own careless techs 
>>>
>>> If you have multiple entities in a shared space, how can you mitigate the 
>>> chances of someone doing something (assuming accidentally) to disrupt your 
>>> operations? I'm thinking accidentally unplug the wrong power cord, patch 
>>> cord, etc. Accidentally power off or reboot the wrong device. 
>>>
>>> Obviously labels are an easy way to point out to someone that's looking at 
>>> the right place at the right time. Some devices have a cage around the 
>>> power cord, but some do not. 
>>>
>>> Any sort of mesh panels you could put on the front\rear of your gear that 
>>> you would mount with the same rack screw that holds your gear in? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- 
>>> Mike Hammett 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>>>
>>> Midwest-IX 
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
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