On: Saturday, 22 October, 2016 17:41, Jean-Francois Mezei 
<jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 2016-10-22 19:03, Keith Medcalf wrote:

> > This does not follow and is not a natural consequence of sealing the
> little buggers up so that they cannot affect the Internet

> Problem is that many of these gadgets want to be internet connected so
> mother at work can check on her kids at home, start the cooking, raise
> thermostat etc.

This does not require that the devices be open to the Internet, nor does it 
require that they are under the control of an Internet based controller.

> The problem is that as a novelty, people are quick to adopt, but don't
> think about making their homes vulnerable to attack. (consider an
> internet connected door lock)

There are many people who do not read this list who would have nothing 
whatsoever to do with such a scheme (earlier similar schemes are routers & etc 
that are programmed and controlled from the "web", and remote access crap which 
is proxied through a third-party web server -- another ill-conceived and 
brain-dead idea).  This is a self-limiting issue.  Darwin will take care of it. 
 Unfortunately there will be collateral damage as those not fit to the 
continuation of the species are eliminated from the gene pool.

We should do our duty and make sure that the pool cleaning proceeds with the 
maximum speed and efficiency possible.




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