On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 03:27:49PM -0700, Michael Crapse wrote: > Customers on ps4s and xboxes will hate you. They will always get "strict" > nat, and it's your fault not mega corporation X's fault for not releasing > IPv4s
I think you misspelled "those console platforms' fault for being bad network citizens": "(10/13/17) As of PS4 update 5.00 no offical IPv6 support has been added." from https://community.playstation.com/content/pdc/us/en_US/pdc-communities/playstation-general.topic.html/ipv6_psn_and_youc-bUKX.html Xbox one actually seems to DTRT: https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/ipv6-on-xbox-one Cheers! Joe > On 22 January 2018 at 15:23, Mark Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Add to that CGN from RFC 6598 addresses (100.64/10) + IPv6 though that > > reaches its limit at ~4M customers. > > > > Native IPv4 with a GUA to customers is essentially unavailable for new > > ISPs. It???s a matter of picking which flavour of NAT you and your > > customers are going to use. The sooner ALL ISP???s provide IPv6 to their > > customers the sooner we restore delivering the Internet to the customers. > > > > Mark > > > > > On 23 Jan 2018, at 9:05 am, Lee Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > IPv6 still solves your problem if you add any of NAT64, DS-Lite, 464xlat, > > > MAP-T, MAP-E. > > > > > > Yes, you???re NATing, but only the traffic to places like Hulu, and it > > > will > > > decrease over time. And while you need addresses for the outside of the > > > translator, you don???t need as many (or to get more as frequently). > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > On 1/20/18, 10:20 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett" > > > <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> It's not really scraping the bottom of the barrel if your customers are > > >> using Hulu and they're complaining because Hulu isn't responsive to > > >> fixing their problems (geo-location, v6, etc.). > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- > > >> Mike Hammett > > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >> http://www.ics-il.com > > >> > > >> Midwest-IX > > >> http://www.midwest-ix.com > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > >> From: "Ca By" <[email protected]> > > >> To: "Michael Crapse" <[email protected]> > > >> Cc: "NANOG list" <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 9:54:23 PM > > >> Subject: Re: Leasing /22 > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:48 PM Michael Crapse <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Has Hulu, or a thousand other content distributors considered IPv6? > > >>> Because > > >>> you can't even tunnel to ipv4 without setting off VPN alarms with HULU. > > >>> > > >> > > >> Hulu? Really scraping the bottom of the barrel of content providers that > > >> dont use ipv6 these days. > > >> > > >> Netflix and Youtube support v6 ... and thousand of others (thousands > > just > > >> on Cloudflare where v6 is default on) > > >> > > >> About 80% of my traffic is native e2e v6, mostly google / youtube / fb / > > >> netflix / apple / amazon ??? but your mix may vary. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 19 January 2018 at 18:38, Andrew Kirch <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:59 PM Ryan Gard <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> We're on the hunt yet again for an additional /22 to lease, and are > > >>>>> wondering what the best options are out there? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Our usual suspects that we've reached out to in the past seem to be > > >>> plum > > >>>>> out... Any recommendations? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Ryan Gard > > >>>>> > > >>>> Have you considered IPv6? > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark Andrews, ISC > > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: [email protected] > > > > -- Posted from my personal account - see X-Disclaimer header. Joe Provo / Gweep / Earthling
