--- [email protected] wrote: From: Matthew Petach <[email protected]> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Ben Cannon <[email protected]> wrote:
> I’m sorry I simply believe that in 2018 with the advanced and cheap ptp > radio (ubiquiti anyone? $300 and I have a 200mbit/sec link over 10miles! > Spend a bit more and go 100km) plus the advancements in cubesats about to > be launched, even the 3rd world can simply get with the times. I do not think you adequately understand the economics of the situation. https://www.slideshare.net/InternetSociety/international-bandwidth-and-pricing-trends-in-subsahara-africa-79147043 slide 22, IP transit cost. Your 200mbit/sec link that costs you $300 in hardware is going to cost you $4960/month to actually get IP traffic across, in Nairobi. Yes, that's about $60,000/year. Could *you* afford to "get with the times" if that's what your bandwidth was going to cost you? Please, do a little research on what the real costs are before telling others they need to "simply get with the times." ----------------------------------------- Also, please don't just look at continental countries when researching. Look at the small PICs (Pacific Island Countries). For example, search the posts from Christian on Kiribati on the PICISOC list. The cost is extraordinary and all the ego-flattering bloat rsk speaks (relevant part of the post id below) of in very expensive to download and is nearly impossible to stop. scott * > The problem (part of the problem) is that the people doing these foolish > things are new, ignorant, and privileged: they don't realize that bandwidth > is still an expensive and scarce resource for most of the planet. I've > said for years that every web designer should be forced to work in an > environment bandlimited to 56K in order to instll in them the virtue > of frugality and strongly discourage them from flattering their egos > by creating all-singing all-dancing web sites...that look great in the > portfolios they'll show to their peers but are horribly bloated, slow, > unrenderable in a lot of browsers, and fraught with security and privacy > problems. (Try pointing a text-only browser at your favorite website. > Can you even read the home page?)

