Mike have you looked at Packetlight?   Long-haul is mostly jumping to 100 or 
even 400g coherent. 

-Ben

> On Dec 15, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> FS had one, but it's not on their site anymore.
> 
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> From: "Luke Guillory" <lguill...@reservetele.com>
> To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>
> Cc: "Eric Dugas" <edu...@unknowndevice.ca>, "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:52:19 AM
> Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
> 
> No cost affective 10x10G to 100G muxponder?
> 
> 
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> heh, cross connects are indeed a major issue. I have a need for > 10G 
> transport. My equipment supports 40G. The carriers aren't terribly interested 
> in doing 40G transport (at least not at a reasonable price, one quote was 
> over 4x a 10G). 100G-capable switches cost too much. Equinix charges as much 
> for a pair of cross connects as a 10G wave. Carriers aren't likely to be 
> interested in using bidi optics or passive WDM to overcome the ridiculous 
> cross connect charges.
> 
> This all complicates how one chooses transport. There's no easy path forward.
> 
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> From: "Eric Dugas" <edu...@unknowndevice.ca>
> To: "Mehmet Akcin" <meh...@akcin.net>
> Cc: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:42:53 AM
> Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea)
> 
> I also look at hand-off locations (as long as it doesn't compromise the 
> overall robustness of the design).
> 
> Most providers will be able to hand-off in the BMMR of a carrier hotel and 
> some will have the flexibility to hand-off in particular suites within the 
> same building or other locations near where the cross-connects fees are 
> lower. I've seen cross-connect fees between $50 up to $750 MRC so if you need 
> multiple wavelengths (for capacity), the cross-connect fees are going to make 
> a huge difference on the total MRC.
> 
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> On Dec 14 2018, at 12:17 pm, Mehmet Akcin <meh...@akcin.net> wrote:
> Thank you everyone incredible amounts of responses for my how to choose a 
> transit provider smail earlier.
> 
> How do you choose transport & backbone?
> 
> Looking at key aspects like route information, diversity, aerial vs under 
> ground fiber, age of fiber, outage history, length, but what else?
> 
> I will get both transport and transit as two seperate blogs.
> 
> I will also submit as a nanog paper for the meeting after next, or maybe 
> next? I am probably too late by now.
> 
> Thank you for all your help. I will add your names to the thank you line ;-)
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