Mike have you looked at Packetlight? Long-haul is mostly jumping to 100 or even 400g coherent.
-Ben > On Dec 15, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > FS had one, but it's not on their site anymore. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > From: "Luke Guillory" <lguill...@reservetele.com> > To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > Cc: "Eric Dugas" <edu...@unknowndevice.ca>, "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:52:19 AM > Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea) > > No cost affective 10x10G to 100G muxponder? > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > heh, cross connects are indeed a major issue. I have a need for > 10G > transport. My equipment supports 40G. The carriers aren't terribly interested > in doing 40G transport (at least not at a reasonable price, one quote was > over 4x a 10G). 100G-capable switches cost too much. Equinix charges as much > for a pair of cross connects as a 10G wave. Carriers aren't likely to be > interested in using bidi optics or passive WDM to overcome the ridiculous > cross connect charges. > > This all complicates how one chooses transport. There's no easy path forward. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > From: "Eric Dugas" <edu...@unknowndevice.ca> > To: "Mehmet Akcin" <meh...@akcin.net> > Cc: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:42:53 AM > Subject: Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea) > > I also look at hand-off locations (as long as it doesn't compromise the > overall robustness of the design). > > Most providers will be able to hand-off in the BMMR of a carrier hotel and > some will have the flexibility to hand-off in particular suites within the > same building or other locations near where the cross-connects fees are > lower. I've seen cross-connect fees between $50 up to $750 MRC so if you need > multiple wavelengths (for capacity), the cross-connect fees are going to make > a huge difference on the total MRC. > > Eric > > Luke Guillory > Vice President – Technology and Innovation > > > Tel: 985.536.1212 > Fax: 985.536.0300 > Email: lguill...@reservetele.com > Web: www.rtconline.com > > Reserve Telecommunications > 100 RTC Dr > Reserve, LA 70084 > > > > Disclaimer: > The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the > person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential > and/or privileged material which should not disseminate, distribute or be > copied. Please notify Luke Guillory immediately by e-mail if you have > received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. > E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or > incomplete, or contain viruses. Luke Guillory therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. > > On Dec 14 2018, at 12:17 pm, Mehmet Akcin <meh...@akcin.net> wrote: > Thank you everyone incredible amounts of responses for my how to choose a > transit provider smail earlier. > > How do you choose transport & backbone? > > Looking at key aspects like route information, diversity, aerial vs under > ground fiber, age of fiber, outage history, length, but what else? > > I will get both transport and transit as two seperate blogs. > > I will also submit as a nanog paper for the meeting after next, or maybe > next? I am probably too late by now. > > Thank you for all your help. I will add your names to the thank you line ;-) > -- > Mehmet > +1-424-298-1903 > >