bleh? On 7/4/06, Shmarya Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bleh.... > > > On 7/4/06, Jay Flowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We could use ILMerge.exe to merge separate project outputs in the > > build process so that we get the best of both worlds. > > > > On 7/4/06, Gert Driesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Shmarya, > > > > > > This is actually something that needs further discussion. Right now, > > > NAntContrib consists of a single "extension" assembly > > > (NAnt.Contrib.Tasks.dll ). > > > > > > This approach makes it easier for users to deploy and reference the > > > NAntContrib extensions, but introduces issues when we want to allow > building > > > NAntContrib on Mono, as COM interop (for example) is not available on > Mono. > > > > > > Splitting up the NAntContrib extension assembly into smaller assemblies > > > would be an option for this. The NAntContrib build process would then > just > > > skip the build of some of these assemblies, depending on the target > > > framework (and/or platform). Ofcourse, creating a separate extension > > > assembly for each task that relies on a third party library would become > > > unmanagable (for both us and build authors). > > > > > > We'll first have to inform/consult the NAntContrib users, and then agree > on > > > how exactly, if at all, this split-up will be done. > > > > > > About the <nunit2> task: one option would be to move the <nunit2> task > to > > > NUNit cvs. But this needs more thought. Perhaps we should introduce an > > > <nunit-console> task that would just be a wrapper for nunit-console. The > > > advantage of this task would be that we can allow unit tests to run on > the > > > active target framework. > > > > > > eg. even when running NAnt on MS.NET 2.0, we'd be able to support > running > > > unit tests on MS.NET 1.0. > > > > > > This can ofcourse not be achieved when using the NUNit API. > > > > > > > > > Gert > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Shmarya Rubenstein > > > To: Gert Driesen > > > Cc: nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:34 AM > > > Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Nant contributions or where nant is going? > > > > > > Hi Gert... > > > > > > If you want, I can fold the Telnet code into the Nant.Telnet assembly. > This > > > will get rid of the extra dependency.... > > > > > > I can create a patch, do you want udiff? > > > > > > I'm very familiar with cvs. BTW: I am one of the developers on NUnit, > and > > > I'd also like to take a look at updating the NUnit task.... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Shmarya > > > > > > > > > On 7/4/06, Gert Driesen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shmarya, > > > > > > > > I did have a look at the task you submitted, but I was hesitant to add > it > > > to NAntContrib back then, as it does add another external dependency > (telnet > > > library). But for NAntContrib this is not really an issue, I guess. > > > > > > > > Would you be willing to create a patch against NAntContrib cvs ? If > the > > > patch checks out fine, I'll either commit it myself or give you > permissions > > > to commit it yourself. > > > > > > > > Are you familiar with cvs ? > > > > > > > > Gert > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Shmarya Rubenstein > > > > To: Gert Driesen > > > > Cc: nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:22 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Nant contributions or where nant is going? > > > > > > > > > > > > Suggestion: > > > > > > > > Why don't you give a list of open issues that are up for grabs and let > > > people pick something to try? > > > > > > > > PS: I tried to submit a task to nant-contrib a while back (telnet > task) > > > and got zero response after a number of mails to the lists... > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/3/06, Gert Driesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Flex > > > > > > Sent: maandag 3 juli 2006 11:10 > > > > > > To: Gert Driesen; > > > nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Nant contributions or where nant is going? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, thanks for the answer, I was about to get desperate ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you clear this one: > > > > > > > We definitely have a lack of contributors. With this I'm > > > > > > not talking about > > > > > > > people that post new tasks, but we need developers & > > > > > > designers for improving > > > > > > > the NAnt core. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NAnt core is indeed pretty stable, but it could always do with > some > > > > > > > performance improvements. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... first one says core needs work, tasks later, while the > > > > > > second - core > > > > > > is ready, only some optimizations left? IMO getting the > > > > > > system rich in > > > > > > functionality is more important than letting the build finish > > > > > > 2 seconds > > > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not saying that new tasks cannot be added, but they should first > be > > > > > added to NAntContrib. > > > > > > > > > > I just think that there's less need for task developers (as users > tend > > > to > > > > > contribute these), but we need more developers that master the NAnt > core > > > > > source code, so we can kill some of the open bugs and improve in > areas > > > where > > > > > we currently only offer poor solutions (eg. lack of input framework, > bad > > > XML > > > > > schema generation, ...). > > > > > > > > > > That said, we never reject an offer for help: if you're more > interested > > > in > > > > > developing new tasks, then we'd be glad to accept you as developer > for > > > the > > > > > NAntContrib project (to start from). > > > > > > > > > > > > You're definitely not gonna get hanged. We welcome all feedback! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you volunteering to become part of the NAntContrib team ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are, first start by submitting patches to the > > > > > > NAntContrib developer > > > > > > > list for review. If your patches meet our quality level, > > > > > > we'll make you a > > > > > > > member of the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After that, you can dive into the NAnt codebase. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used nant as an excuse to start C# programming, always > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > gather some experience in it, but haven't found the right project > to > > > > > > work on. So I'm complete newbie, C# knowledge for 2 days, and > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how much I pay attention to write clean code, I'm sure it is far > from > > > > > > good at this point, so unless I get more experienced it is > > > > > > best not to > > > > > > mess with the core. > > > > > > While I may not be worth for a member of nant-contrib because I'm > > > > > > overloaded with projects and deadlines, I'm completely open to > > > > > > submitting new/modified tasks to nant-contrib, > > > > > > > > > > That would be great. > > > > > > > > > > > I do what I > > > > > > need and can > > > > > > submit with a hope it will be useful for the rest too. 2 > > > > > > things bothers > > > > > > me here: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The personal opinion of what is good. For example I'm > > > > > > doing some task > > > > > > with 3 attributes, okay I make it exactly as I need it and > > > > > > submit. If it > > > > > > is accepted, it will become part of the nant-contrib. > > > > > > However, since the > > > > > > tasks fills my needs, to become useful to the public it needs > > > > > > attrib 1 > > > > > > to be changed to accept different values and 2 more to be added. > This > > > > > > leads to deprecated attribute at best which is not good. At > > > > > > worse, the > > > > > > whole task has to be redesigned to have the same or better > > > > > > functionality > > > > > > while suits the others too. Idea: board where users can discuss > new > > > > > > tasks or task enchantments so they can be made right from the > first > > > > > > time? Mailing lists are quite bad for this purpose. > > > > > > > > > > I prefer reaching a large audience, as changes often impact a large > > > number > > > > > of users. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is good and bad for nant-contrib, i.e. will <taskX> > > > > > > be accepted? > > > > > > For example I saw no UI tasks anywhere, nothing but a > > > > > > commandline. Since > > > > > > I'm converting my build systems (based of bat files & support > > > > > > programs) > > > > > > I miss some stuff, i.e. warning messages which I can choose > > > > > > to ignore or > > > > > > stop the build, a nice UI with some project information giving me > the > > > > > > possibility to alter some settings and select the way it > > > > > > should go from > > > > > > there, etc? > > > > > > > > > > There's (almost) no limit to the types of tasks that are accepted > for > > > > > NAntContrib. > > > > > > > > > > Criteria for NAnt are much stricter, but not clearly outlined. > > > > > > > > > > Gert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > security? > > > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job > > > easier > > > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > > Geronimo > > > > > > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > nant-developers mailing list > > > > > nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Shmarya > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://idp.shmarya.net > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > > easier > > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > > > > > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > nant-developers mailing list > > > > nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shmarya > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://idp.shmarya.net > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > > easier > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > nant-developers mailing list > > > nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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