On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Chris Engel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ok, Keith I'll bite how do we route traffic from my machine to your machine 
> while not informing you of the actual IP address assigned to my machine, 
> without using some iteration of Address Translation and without causing the 
> exact same sort of side effects that NAT currently causes?
>

One way is using an encapsulation mechanism such that the endhost
knows the IP address that
will be exposed.   Imagine putting Mobile-IP style home agents at your
network border:
a host maintains (or creates as needed) a tunnel to that border host
when it needs to reach
an endpoint outside the local galumbit; the home agent would also
presumably be permitted
to reach hosts inside the galumbit when administrative rules for that
have been satisfied.

There are other trade-offs, of course, but it looks to me that
existing technology
enable you to design a network border with the security properties you
desire without NAT.
You get a very short-legged triangle route (similar to mobile IP's
triangle, but with much less
practical effect), but this has a pretty different impact from NAT.

[I'm using the term "galumbit" above because realm, zone, and domain
are off-limits and Fred
doesn't want to talk about reachability.  I hope you know the galumbit
when you see it, as
the thing inside those borders]

Just my opinion, of course,

regards,

Ted
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