On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Fred Baker wrote:

>> application implementors are grossly under-represented in IETF, which is why 
>> IETF hasn't reacted more vigorously and more uniformly against NATs.
>> 
>> network equipment vendors have the most clout of any group in IETF.  several 
>> of those guys were encouraging NAT and discouraging IETF from telling the 
>> truth about NAT, because they were in the business of selling NATs, and 
>> because NATs moved their problems into someone else's space. 
> 
> I presume, in that, that you are talking about me.

I wasn't talking about you at all, and didn't intend for it to be taken that 
way.    Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I don't recall an occasion where you personally tried to suppress information 
about NATs.  I do recall such efforts from others in IESG and IAB who happened 
to work for major equipment vendors.

Keith

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