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From: "John Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Instant Report on Permanent Forum at ONU Geneva
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:45:18 PST
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Hello all.  This is not a standard summary: I hope to send the Wednesday 
summary later tonight my time,and Thursday's report should come late in 
the day tomorrow.  I just wanted to quickly apprise everyone of some new 
developments within the PF Working Group and some ancilliary networking 
that has taken place.

First, today (Thursday) was a much more contentious day than any of the 
other meetings.  We have not moved back to Salle XVII because supposedly 
there was some damage done, and the Chair wanted to preserve what he saw 
as a spirit of cooperation in Salle XII.  But there are still great 
problems of translation, and given the Chair's practice of issuing 
conference room papers, there have been complaints from non-English 
speaking delegations (both states and indigenous peoples) about their 
inability to adequately analyze these documents for comment, and there 
is even less being done about the problems of translating concepts (one 
French speaker pointed out today that the word for "forum" in French can 
also mean a folkloric celebration, a rather ironic name for such a 
serious thing as a Permanent Forum).  This led to long discussions that 
detracted from other issues, including a "nameplates down" debate on 
technical matters and the question of the WGIP's relation to the 
Permanent Forum.  I'll send more info on this later, but for now I'll 
say that many states said they would not support both institutions, and 
that to raise money for the PF, the WGIP would have to go.  Denmark was 
once again the indigenous peoples' strongest supporter, stating 
unequivocally that the WGIP's fate should not be linked to the PF, and 
that if any group should decide the WGIP's fate, it should be a 
fully-constituted PF.  I'll try to get a breakdown of state positions 
out, perhaps early next week after the summaries are complete.

More importantly, the afternoon session was supposed to be focused on 
pre-drafting debate of the CRPs,which are being combined into an annex 
to the full working group report.  Over lunch the Chair met with the 
states to discuss the CRPs (he did this with the indigenous caucus the 
evening before), and they ran over-time. It was obvious that state 
delegates had a lot to say about the shaping of the final report.  This 
came out even more clearly when the afternoon session started.

Upon our return from lunch, the Chair presented a document called CRP4, 
which was basically a first draft of parts of the final report (the 
narrative part is written by the Secretariat).  It caused a huge stir, 
despite the Chair's concerted efforts to explain that it was not 
binding.  After reading the heading aloud, the chair broke the meeting 
until sufficient copies could be distributed for further comment. There 
was more confusion due to the fact that there were actually 2 CRPs, and 
that translations were also making the reading harder. The indigenous 
caucus then met,and upon returning to the meeting about 20 minutes later 
the caucus proposed a re-wording of the heading that would remove what 
many delegates saw as a negative slant that came from the pressure of 
the most stubborn states, India and the U.S.  Denmark immediately 

approved it, but India stepped in and started asking procedural 
questions about the Working Group's mandate and powers.  Canada, Norway, 
and Russia came out with Denmark in solid support of this new wording, 
but India continued to enact procedural blocking, with the US basically 
saying it would not support the new wording and suggesting that the 
Chair make it his own perspective.  Eventually Brazil and Argentina 
blocked further procedural wrangling on the heading, but then India, the 
UK, and the US began stalling or going off-topic.  In particular, the US 
came out against Norway's attempts at mediation and formally requested 
that the Chair remove the "s" from "indigenous peoples" since this was a 
legal term that could not be applied to indigenous peoples.  After 
bending over backwards to accommodate India and the US, the Chair 
suspended the meeting.

Where that leaves us for tomorrow is anyone's guess.  It is hoped that 
some dialogue can be resumed, but given the fear response that a number 
of countries have demonstrated, it's hard to tell how the actual 
drafting of the report will proceed.  The indigenous delegates are 
preparing for a hard day, although given the strong support of some of 
the Nordic countries and Canada, it is hoped that a broad coalition of 
support for the Chair can be mustered to move the process forward and 
create a useful report and set of ideas for March's Commission on Human 
Rights meeting, where formal decisions will be made on the future of the 
Permanent Forum process.

John Stevens
Geneva
18/2/99

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