Hi Chris and Chris, Chris A. already talked to me before and I'm comfortable getting a secondary project lead. Like Chris G. I also can't promise how much time I can devote but I'll do my best to do the paper work, ... .
Maybe we need a mentor helping us with the paperwork, ... thingie because I've never done it before. I still think that other nebula committers need to step up and tell if they agree with this. Tom Schindl Christopher J Gross schrieb: > Hi Tom,Chris, > > I don't really have alot of time to devote to Nebula at the moment. I'm > certainly supportive if Tom wants to become a project lead. > > regards, > -Chris > > > From: Tom Schindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Nebula Dev <[email protected]> > Cc: Technology PMC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 11/03/2008 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Nebula Project Review > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Hi Chris, > Chris Aniszczyk schrieb: >> Hi Nebula team, the Technology PMC is reviewing projects and here is >> the review for your project: >> >> The project isn't conforming to the incubation branding >> > (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Conforming_Incubation_Branding). > >> It would be fantastic if the Nebula project could take the initiative >> and fix this so it can take advantage of the Parallel IP process. >> >> The committers appear to come from a diverse group of companies and >> individuals, this is a good thing. > Yes and that's why Nebula is a bit different compared to other > Eclipse-Projects (see Plan Question below). >> >> The mailing list isn't really active. Development doesn't seem to >> reflect this as there is work going on in the source repository. The >> newsgroups are pretty active which signifies the project has a good >> user community. > See above because every widget has only a small number of developers > (often only one) this is reflected by the low traffic on the > mailing-list. I also proposed some time ago to add states like > Apache-Jakarta does. There's a mail from me "CTableTree" from > "2008-06-17" things like this and more. >> >> The project plan [1] is not yet in the standard format... I couldn't >> really find a plan at all. Should the plan be scoped to each Nebula >> widget or should it be something higher level like "get nebula widgets >> on the Galileo train" > I think that every widget should have its own plan. I also would like to > change the scope of Nebula to reflect reality. The current project > description says: > > "The Nebula project is a source for custom SWT widgets and other UI > components. Nebula is also an incubator for SWT. Some Nebula widgets > will graduate into SWT and therefore into the main Eclipse Platform." > > I think this doesn't reflect reality because it's fairly unlikely that > any of the widget will ever get part of SWT but adds some constraints to > what Nebula-Widgets (e.g. CDC1.0 support - though its not reality) > whereas I'd like to allow widget implementors to use Java 1.4/Java 5. > >> >> The IP Log [2] appears complete, but I'm not sure. The Nebula project >> should strive to use the Automated IP Log process now [3]. >> >> I've noticed that the Nebula project has a great website show casing >> the widgets. However, the widgets available on the website are out of >> date. This is most likely because Nebula doesn't have an automated >> build system for the various widgets. Does the Nebula project need >> help in this regard? I think it would be beneficial to the consumers >> of the Nebula widgets if there was an automated build system in place. >> Maybe community members like Nick Boldt can help, or the Nebula could >> be the guinea pigs for the Common Build Infrastructure work [4]. > > Yes we need help and if someone who knows the releng system takes a look > it is not really hard to get such a build running because we only have > plain java builds. We even has a bug for this > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=237588. > >> >> Currently, Chris Gross from IBM is the project lead from Nebula, how >> about nominating another person from Nebula to join the project >> leadership? I think Tom Schindl has done a good job in keeping up with >> the Nebula newsgroup and mailing list. This can help split some of the >> workload amongst project leads and not only have Chris Gross in a >> position to approve things. >> >> One question the Nebula team can ask themselves is how to make it >> easier for people to come in and bring in their widgets? I think if an >> automated build is setup and the project conforms to the IP process, >> it would be easier for people to come on board. > Right. IMHO the following things help to get people started easier: > - Don't enforce Java x > - Prallel IP > > Tom >> >> [1] >> > http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=technology.nebula >> [2] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Nebula_Gallery_IPLog >> [3] http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=technology.nebula >> [4] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Build_Workshop_3:_Build_Hard_With_A_Purpose >> >> Thanks for reading and let us know if you need help. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> ~ Chris Aniszczyk >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nebula-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev _______________________________________________ nebula-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
