Hi Roland, 

We are in the process to create the CWT sub project which will hold common code 
for custom widget and animation is a part of it. CWT already exists in CVS, but 
is not officially created thus not available on the website. A binary 
distribution of an animation-only package was not planned because of the 
-supposed- overlap with e4.  

In the meantime, the gallery binaries include the animation package. It is 
exposed and can be used in applications. There is a release and a nighty build.

-- 
Nicolas 



Le 8 janv. 2010 à 10:51, Roland Tepp a écrit :

> Hi Nicolas,
>  
> I would like to ask you if the SAT library has any binary distributions 
> planned in the context of Nebula project?
>  
> At least on the Nebula web page, there is no sign of the SAT project...
>  
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Nicolas Richeton
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:38 AM
> To: Nebula Dev
> Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] SWT Transition Widget - STW proposal
>  
> Hi Jin, Ahmed
>  
> Jin :
> I was not following the e4 mailing list, but the contribution of trident 
> seems quite strange to me since when I first blogged (April 2008) about 
> nebula animation package (previously SAT), Steve Northover mentioned that e4 
> was already providing an animation API. [1]
>  
> Because of this overlap, the package was introduced in Nebula only to provide 
> animation support for custom widgets on all SWT versions, while it can still 
> be used to animate SWT and RCP applications. It is currently used by Gallery 
> (SmoothScrolling, expand/collapse animation) and DateTime (popup animation).
>  
> If e4 is looking for an animation library, we can provide and improve our 
> package according to their needs. It is already included in the photo demo 
> since it uses the gallery widget :-)
>  
> Ahmed :
> Your transition implementation work as I expected. I was planning do the same 
> on my side but I didn't have enough free time.  
> I agree that transition and effects/animation are different. My idea was to 
> add a sub package named org.eclipse.nebula.animation.transition for your 
> code, because transitions can be though as some kind of animation. 
> If I understand correctly, the UI is freezed during the transition. Am I 
> right ? 
>  
> I'm waiting for your code to be approved so I can borrow the 3d cube 
> implementation in the crossfade effect :-)
>  
> All : 
> Current animation package in CVS includes : 
> (Javadoc from latest release is there : 
> http://www.eclipse.org/nebula/widgets/gallery/javadoc/r_0_20090418/index.html 
> )
>  
> org.eclipse.nebula.animation : 
>      AnimationRunner :  Object which run an animation (Timeline in trident). 
> One animation runner can play only one effect at the same time.
>               Note: each effect can have cancel and stop runnable.  Stop will 
> be called when the effect ends normally. Cancel will be called when the 
> animation is canceled or when the effect is replaced. This makes very easy to 
> change an effect while it is running without any visual problems or incorrect 
> values.
>               
>      ScrollingSmoother : add iphone-like scrolling on mousewheel events to  
> any scrollable widget. Scrolling can be exponential (standard) or elastic, 
> bouncing, .... See [2]
>  
> org.eclipse.nebula.animation.movement    . See [3] for demo of easing 
> equations
>     (Easing : From A to B)
>     BounceOut  
>     ElasticOut  
>     ExpoOut  
>     LinearInOut  
>     QuartIn  
>     QuartInOut   
>     QuartOut  
>  
>     (Variation : from A to A with intermediate values).
>     SinusDecreaseVariation     (used by Grow)
>     SinusVariation    (used by Shake)
>  
>    ... and an interface to implement you own movements in a few lines. 
>  
> org.eclipse.nebula.animation.effects   See [4] for demos  Each effect can use 
> one or more movement to interpolate values.
>    Alpha : Change alpha on a shell
>    CrossFade : Crossfade two images on any target : widget, on custom object
>    Grow : Change size of an object, keeping it centered with elastic effect.
>    MoveControl : Change x,y of a Control/Widget
>    MoveScrollbar : Change scrollbar position.
>    Parallel : Run several effects at the same time
>    ResizeEffect : Resize a control, from the bottom left corner.
>    SequenceEffect : Run several effects one after another.
>    SetBounds : Change all bounds of a widget
>    SetColor : Change color of a widget or any custom object  
>    ShakeEffect : See 'wrong password effect' on OSX
>  
>   ... and an abstract class to implement your own effects in a few lines.
>  
>  
> Planned : 
>     Support for loop, reverse in AnimationRunner
>     PropertyEffect, similar to Trident.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Note : I also use this package to animate OpenGL objects in my RCP 
> application [5]
>  
> Well, I got to copy/paste all this into the nebula wiki :-)
>  
> [1] http://blog.richeton.com/2008/04/13/swt-animation-toolkit-preview/
> [2] 
> http://blog.richeton.com/2008/02/24/smooth-scrolling-for-the-nebula-gallery-widget/
> [3] http://www.robertpenner.com/easing/easing_demo.html
> [4] http://blog.richeton.com/swt-animation-toolkit/
> [5] http://blog.richeton.com/2008/05/28/sharemedia-032-released/
> -- 
> Nicolas
>  
>  
> Le 8 janv. 2010 à 08:25, Jin Mingjian a écrit :
> 
> 
> such as, http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/e4-dev/msg02118.html
> 
> I guess there are some overlappings in your, nebula, and their works . But 
> the collaboration seem hard according to their license problem:)  But at 
> least it is useful to plan the future of work:)
>  
>  
> 2010/1/8 Ahmed Mahran <[email protected]>
> 
> I'm new to the mailing list and I think I missed what e4 said. Would you 
> please explain more?
> 
> 2010/1/8 Jin Mingjian <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> seem cool. e4 said a potential animation contribution called Trident some 
> days ago. is it possible to merge all the effort?
> 
> 2010/1/8 Ahmed Mahran <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> Hi Nicolas,
>  
> Thank you for your nice comment.
> Your idea sounds great. First, let me clarify some points. In Transition 
> package, widgets themselves are not animated but their images are instead. 
> During the transition, widgets are hidden below a canvas where their images 
> are shown being animated so any event from user input will not be dispatched 
> to the hidden widgets. So, in Transition package, an extra widget is needed 
> to show the transition. Widgets are animated by changing their limited visual 
> properties that one can reach directly like (visibility, position, size, 
> colors). However, animating images gives more variety. So we can end up with 
> two kinds of animation: widget animation and image animation.
>  
> So, what I see is that:
> - Animation package could be extended with image/pixel animation to animate a 
> single image.
> - A transition package is still needed to carry out the logic of imaging 
> widgets and transitioning.
>  
> Regards,
> ahmahran
>  
> 2010/1/6 Nicolas Richeton <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> Hi Ahmahran,
> 
> I just want to say that your transition effects are great, especially the 3D 
> cubic one.
> 
> We have an animation package in nebula, currently in Gallery but will move in 
> CWT (common code for Nebula widgets) eventually. This package implements 
> several movements ( linear, elastic, expo, bounce)  and effects (move, 
> resize, fade, set color, shake, crossfade images) which can be applied on 
> widgets. If I understand your work correctly, it is able to transition 
> between 2 widgets or tabs. This is totally cool and does not exist in our 
> animation package.
> 
> Since we already have some animation/transition code and since your code is 
> not a widget, it may be a good idea to add your code to the animation package 
> instead of creating a new project. This way we could add support for 
> different movements in Transition and  provide new effects based on your 
> transitions.
> 
> We probably need an official creation for CWT (it is already on CVS) for this 
> and I don't think it has been done already.
> 
> In all cases (new project or not), you will have to get your code reviewed 
> and to become a Nebula committer.
> 
> What would you think of this ? (This question goes for all Nebula committers 
> too :-) )
> --
> Nicolas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 5 janv. 2010 à 21:21, Tom Schindl a écrit :
> 
> > Hi ahmahran,
> >
> > The start of bringing in a widget to Nebula is to create a bugzilla
> > using this URL [1] and attach the source code to a bug.
> >
> > In nebula every widget is an independent OSGi-Bundle and normally the
> > only dependencies are SWT and JFace-Libaries and so the correct bundle
> > is going to be "org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.stw" or
> > "org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.jstw" but for a review this is not necessary.
> >
> > Please CC me on the bug a post the bug-id to this list
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > [1]https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Nebula
> >
> > Am 05.01.10 21:01, schrieb Ahmed Mahran:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I would like to have the honor and to bring my recently published
> >> project "SWT Transition Widget (STW)" to Nebula. STW is a java project
> >> to add fancy effects to SWT GUI. Users would enjoy wandering around
> >> views with smooth transition effect. Currently implemented transitions
> >> are : (3D cubic rotations, translation, fade). You can watch demos
> >> at http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2569B36FF288D795
> >> <http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2569B36FF288D795>
> >>
> >> The project is currently hosted at SourceForge
> >> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstw/> 
> >> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstw/
> >> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstw/>)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> ahmahran
> >>
> >>
> >>
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