e4 ? well.. Im not sure... from what i had rad. look like the animation pack will not be available so soon. Please note that SWT are quite behind in this area. Swing, JavaFX, .NET, Flash and even QT able to push the pixel to the limit, not mentions about transition, animation and all that. so, nice if Nebula able to kick start 1st and also can be great testing ground for e4 or SWT.
Shell we start now :-) instead of waiting e4... On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Nicolas Richeton <[email protected] > wrote: > Hi Roland, > > We are in the process to create the CWT sub project which will hold common > code for custom widget and animation is a part of it. CWT already exists in > CVS, but is not officially created thus not available on the website. A > binary distribution of an animation-only package was not planned because of > the -supposed- overlap with e4. > > In the meantime, the gallery binaries include the animation package. It is > exposed and can be used in applications. There is a release and a nighty > build. > > -- > Nicolas > > > > Le 8 janv. 2010 à 10:51, Roland Tepp a écrit : > > Hi Nicolas, > > I would like to ask you if the SAT library has any binary distributions > planned in the context of Nebula project? > > At least on the Nebula web page, there is no sign of the SAT project... > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nicolas Richeton > *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2010 11:38 AM > *To:* Nebula Dev > *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] SWT Transition Widget - STW proposal > > Hi Jin, Ahmed > > Jin : > I was not following the e4 mailing list, but the contribution of trident > seems quite strange to me since when I first blogged (April 2008) about > nebula animation package (previously SAT), Steve Northover mentioned that e4 > was already providing an animation API. [1] > > Because of this overlap, the package was introduced in Nebula only to > provide animation support for custom widgets on all SWT versions, while it > can still be used to animate SWT and RCP applications. It is currently used > by Gallery (SmoothScrolling, expand/collapse animation) and DateTime (popup > animation). > > If e4 is looking for an animation library, we can provide and improve our > package according to their needs. It is already included in the photo demo > since it uses the gallery widget :-) > > Ahmed : > Your transition implementation work as I expected. I was planning do the > same on my side but I didn't have enough free time. > I agree that transition and effects/animation are different. My idea was to > add a sub package named org.eclipse.nebula.animation.transition for your > code, because transitions can be though as some kind of animation. > If I understand correctly, the UI is freezed during the transition. Am I > right ? > > I'm waiting for your code to be approved so I can borrow the 3d cube > implementation in the crossfade effect :-) > > All : > Current animation package in CVS includes : > (Javadoc from latest release is there : > http://www.eclipse.org/nebula/widgets/gallery/javadoc/r_0_20090418/index.html > ) > > org.eclipse.nebula.animation : > AnimationRunner : Object which run an animation (Timeline in > trident). One animation runner can play only one effect at the same time. > Note: each effect can have cancel and stop runnable. Stop > will be called when the effect ends normally. Cancel will be called when the > animation is canceled or when the effect is replaced. This makes very easy > to change an effect while it is running without any visual problems or > incorrect values. > > ScrollingSmoother : add iphone-like scrolling on mousewheel events to > any scrollable widget. Scrolling can be exponential (standard) or elastic, > bouncing, .... See [2] > > org.eclipse.nebula.animation.movement . See [3] for demo of easing > equations > (Easing : From A to B) > BounceOut > ElasticOut > ExpoOut > LinearInOut > QuartIn > QuartInOut > QuartOut > > (Variation : from A to A with intermediate values). > SinusDecreaseVariation (used by Grow) > SinusVariation (used by Shake) > > ... and an interface to implement you own movements in a few lines. > > org.eclipse.nebula.animation.effects See [4] for demos Each effect can > use one or more movement to interpolate values. > Alpha : Change alpha on a shell > CrossFade : Crossfade two images on any target : widget, on custom > object > Grow : Change size of an object, keeping it centered with elastic > effect. > MoveControl : Change x,y of a Control/Widget > MoveScrollbar : Change scrollbar position. > Parallel : Run several effects at the same time > ResizeEffect : Resize a control, from the bottom left corner. > SequenceEffect : Run several effects one after another. > SetBounds : Change all bounds of a widget > SetColor : Change color of a widget or any custom object > ShakeEffect : See 'wrong password effect' on OSX > > ... and an abstract class to implement your own effects in a few lines. > > > Planned : > Support for loop, reverse in AnimationRunner > PropertyEffect, similar to Trident. > > > > > Note : I also use this package to animate OpenGL objects in my RCP > application [5] > > Well, I got to copy/paste all this into the nebula wiki :-) > > [1] http://blog.richeton.com/2008/04/13/swt-animation-toolkit-preview/ > [2] > http://blog.richeton.com/2008/02/24/smooth-scrolling-for-the-nebula-gallery-widget/ > [3] http://www.robertpenner.com/easing/easing_demo.html > [4] http://blog.richeton.com/swt-animation-toolkit/ > [5] http://blog.richeton.com/2008/05/28/sharemedia-032-released/ > -- > Nicolas > > > Le 8 janv. 2010 à 08:25, Jin Mingjian a écrit : > > > such as, http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/e4-dev/msg02118.html > I guess there are some overlappings in your, nebula, and their works . But > the collaboration seem hard according to their license problem:) But at > least it is useful to plan the future of work:) > > > 2010/1/8 Ahmed Mahran <[email protected]> > > I'm new to the mailing list and I think I missed what e4 said. Would you > please explain more? > 2010/1/8 Jin Mingjian <[email protected]> > > > seem cool. e4 said a potential animation contribution called Trident some > days ago. is it possible to merge all the effort? > 2010/1/8 Ahmed Mahran <[email protected]> > > > Hi Nicolas, > > Thank you for your nice comment. > Your idea sounds great. First, let me clarify some points. In Transition > package, widgets themselves are not animated but their images are instead. > During the transition, widgets are hidden below a canvas where their images > are shown being animated so any event from user input will not be dispatched > to the hidden widgets. So, in Transition package, an extra widget is needed > to show the transition. Widgets are animated by changing their limited > visual properties that one can reach directly like (visibility, position, > size, colors). However, animating images gives more variety. So we can end > up with two kinds of animation: widget animation and image animation. > > So, what I see is that: > - Animation package could be extended with image/pixel animation to animate > a single image. > - A transition package is still needed to carry out the logic of imaging > widgets and transitioning. > > Regards, > ahmahran > > 2010/1/6 Nicolas Richeton <[email protected]> > > > Hi Ahmahran, > > I just want to say that your transition effects are great, especially the > 3D cubic one. > > We have an animation package in nebula, currently in Gallery but will move > in CWT (common code for Nebula widgets) eventually. This package implements > several movements ( linear, elastic, expo, bounce) and effects (move, > resize, fade, set color, shake, crossfade images) which can be applied on > widgets. If I understand your work correctly, it is able to transition > between 2 widgets or tabs. This is totally cool and does not exist in our > animation package. > > Since we already have some animation/transition code and since your code is > not a widget, it may be a good idea to add your code to the animation > package instead of creating a new project. This way we could add support for > different movements in Transition and provide new effects based on your > transitions. > > We probably need an official creation for CWT (it is already on CVS) for > this and I don't think it has been done already. > > In all cases (new project or not), you will have to get your code reviewed > and to become a Nebula committer. > > What would you think of this ? (This question goes for all Nebula > committers too :-) ) > -- > Nicolas > > > > > > Le 5 janv. 2010 à 21:21, Tom Schindl a écrit : > > > Hi ahmahran, > > > > The start of bringing in a widget to Nebula is to create a bugzilla > > using this URL [1] and attach the source code to a bug. > > > > In nebula every widget is an independent OSGi-Bundle and normally the > > only dependencies are SWT and JFace-Libaries and so the correct bundle > > is going to be "org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.stw" or > > "org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.jstw" but for a review this is not necessary. > > > > Please CC me on the bug a post the bug-id to this list > > > > Thanks > > > > Tom > > > > [1]https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Nebula > > > > Am 05.01.10 21:01, schrieb Ahmed Mahran: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I would like to have the honor and to bring my recently published > >> project "SWT Transition Widget (STW)" to Nebula. STW is a java project > >> to add fancy effects to SWT GUI. Users would enjoy wandering around > >> views with smooth transition effect. Currently implemented transitions > >> are : (3D cubic rotations, translation, fade). You can watch demos > >> at http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2569B36FF288D795 > >> <http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2569B36FF288D795> > >> > >> The project is currently hosted at SourceForge > >> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstw/> ( > http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstw/ > >> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstw/>) > >> > >> Regards, > >> ahmahran > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> nebula-dev mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nebula-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > >
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