50k trucks are not an issue
Rel-indexes are legacy and only used when you really need them

The tricks is not to use more indexes but a graph model that supports your 
queries

M

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> Am 18.02.2015 um 11:02 schrieb [email protected]:
> 
> Thanks, Michael.
> 
> I will end up with 50.000 trucks.
> 
> Here is my Expander:
> 
> public Iterable expand(Path path, BranchState state) {
>     // for the start node return all outgoing connections
>     if (path.length() < 1){
>         return path.endNode().getRelationships(Direction.OUTGOING);
>     } else {
>         // for all consecutive nodes only return relations with same ID and 
> with the next sequence number
> 
>         // get previuos sequence
>         Integer seq = (Integer)path.lastRelationship().getProperty(SEQUENCE);
>         // increase the sequence by one to find the next sequence
>         Integer nextSeq = seq+1;
> 
>         // get ID
>         Object lastID = path.lastRelationship().getProperty(ID);
> 
>         ArrayList<Relationship> result = new ArrayList<>();
> 
>         // get all outgoing rleationsships for end node
>         Iterable<Relationship> trips = 
> path.endNode().getRelationships(Direction.OUTGOING, TRIP);
>         for (Relationship trip : trips) {
>             // only return is ID is equal and sequence is the next sequence
>             if (lastID.equals(rel.getProperty(ID, null))){
>                 if (nextSeq.equals((Integer)rel.getProperty(SEQUENCE, null))){
>                     result.add(rel);
>                 }
>         }
> 
>         return result;
> 
>     }
> }
> 
> The while loop over all relations is definitely sub-optimal. Just yesterday I 
> discovered the legacy indexes for relations. I am going to give them a try. 
> They seem to be a perfect fit. Can I query the index with multiple fields?
> I have also already been using the ID as relationship type with great 
> improvements.
> 
> I have also thought ow would this be
> 
> Thanks for the option 2. Might be worth a try!
> 
> Is Cypher in general behaving better than Java code? Or is the trick in using 
> as much indexes as possible?
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 10:07:59 AM UTC+1, Michael Hunger wrote:
>> Perhaps you can share some of your Expander code?
>> 
>> Not really sure between what your edges are?
>> 
>> 
>> Two ideas:
>> 
>> 1) How many trucks do you have? Perhaps it makes sense to encode the 
>> truck-id as relationship-type? So you have fewer rels to check and can 
>> benefit from the separated storage by rel-type and direction.
>> 2) Model the trip as a node connected to a truck, and all locations it 
>> visited (perhaps/optionally even encode the location-id as rel-id but that 
>> might be overkill) so you can quickly find all that started at "A" and then 
>> check if the trip has a rel to "B"
>> 
>> 3) Another more verbose approach be to model each trip as a sequence of 
>> nodes (which are shadow nodes of the locations), connect the start-node of 
>> the trip to the truck (optionally all trip-nodes of the trip to the truck). 
>> And then have a relationship to each stop of the trip.
>> 
>> I'd probably go with model #2
>> 
>> HTH Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 16.02.2015 um 12:54 schrieb [email protected]:
>>> 
>>> I need some modelling advice.
>>> 
>>> We want to store and analyse movement patterns. Think of trucks moving 
>>> through a logistic's networks.
>>> We want to ask which truck has ever moved from location A to location B and 
>>> what was the sequence of intermediate stops they made to get there.
>>> 
>>> In a later stage we also want to be able to ask this question if there is 
>>> no truck that has stopped at location A and B. Which trucks and which 
>>> sequence of stops would we have needed to get from A to B.
>>> 
>>> Right now we modeled all locations as nodes and every trip a truck has ever 
>>> made as a separate edge. The edges are attributed with a truck ID and a 
>>> sequence number.
>>> We wrote our custom expander class to be used with the traversal framework 
>>> and to take care of the sequence numbers and truck IDs to only get complete 
>>> sequences for individual trucks.
>>> 
>>> However, this performs very badly.
>>> Right now we have 300 locations/nodes and 300.000 trips/edges. Some stops 
>>> have 20.000 outgoing trips that we are checking for truck ID and sequence 
>>> number (for every outgoing relationship, get attributes and check) .
>>> This performs too badly. 13 seconds for 900 sequences.
>>> 
>>> Finally, we want to try to scale it to 3000 locations and 20.000.000 trips.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do you have any alternative modelling ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot already.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ps: I was thinking of storing every trucks list  as a long linear sequence 
>>> of stops/nodes. The nodes are additionally linked to some identifier Node 
>>> through a type of is relation: "stop x is location A".
>>> 
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