I did a couple of experiments today. For all it's worth: the labels are a means 
to index different document sets, since property indexes are built on node 
label basis. I wouldn't try and introduce a label for each class in yago. As 
mentioned before, I'd rather try and model is-a relationships with nodes rather 
than labels.

Is there a particular reason why you're trying your luck with neo4j instead of 
virtuoso or jena?

Von meinem iPad gesendet

> Am 15.10.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Qi Song <[email protected]>:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> Thanks for your reply :) I noticed that the code is old and use some old 
> APIs. However, the label is a bottleneck for loading RDF files. In my work, 
> the label is very important. I'll try to find some way to handle labels more 
> effective. 
> 
> Bests~
> Qi Song
> 
>> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 2:07:08 PM UTC-7, Michael B. wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> My best guess would be that the algorithm neo4j uses is just can't cope with 
>> the vast amount of labels this sort of use case would produce. Anyhow, the 
>> code is very, very old...
>> The better approach to this would be to actually model RDF-like 
>> relationships with nodes and introduce only a few labels for class, 
>> individual, maybe a couple data types.
>> 
>> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>> 
>>> Am 15.10.2015 um 11:00 schrieb Qi Song <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>> Hello Michael,
>>> I try to use your Turtleloader to import 
>>> Yago(https://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/departments/databases-and-information-systems/research/yago-naga/yago/downloads/)
>>>  into neo4j. But I met some weird problems when importing. I can import 
>>> YagoFacts.ttl and YagoTypes.ttl well separably. But when I tried to import 
>>> both of them I got this error. I'm not sure what's the reason. There is 
>>> some limit for TurtleLoader or BatchImporter?
>>> 
>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
>>>     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>>     at 
>>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
>>>     at 
>>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>>>     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:497)
>>>     at 
>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.jarinjarloader.JarRsrcLoader.main(JarRsrcLoader.java:58)
>>> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Panic called, so exiting
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.staging.AbstractStep.assertHealthy(AbstractStep.java:200)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.staging.ProducerStep.process(ProducerStep.java:78)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.staging.ProducerStep$1.run(ProducerStep.java:54)
>>> Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException
>>>     at sun.misc.Unsafe.allocateMemory(Native Method)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.internal.dragons.UnsafeUtil.malloc(UnsafeUtil.java:324)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.cache.OffHeapNumberArray.<init>(OffHeapNumberArray.java:41)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.cache.OffHeapLongArray.<init>(OffHeapLongArray.java:34)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.cache.NumberArrayFactory$2.newLongArray(NumberArrayFactory.java:122)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.cache.NumberArrayFactory$Auto.newLongArray(NumberArrayFactory.java:154)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.RelationshipCountsProcessor.<init>(RelationshipCountsProcessor.java:60)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.ProcessRelationshipCountsDataStep.processor(ProcessRelationshipCountsDataStep.java:73)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.ProcessRelationshipCountsDataStep.process(ProcessRelationshipCountsDataStep.java:60)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.ProcessRelationshipCountsDataStep.process(ProcessRelationshipCountsDataStep.java:36)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.staging.ProcessorStep$4.run(ProcessorStep.java:120)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.staging.ProcessorStep$4.run(ProcessorStep.java:102)
>>>     at 
>>> org.neo4j.unsafe.impl.batchimport.executor.DynamicTaskExecutor$Processor.run(DynamicTaskExecutor.java:237)
>>> 
>>> Bests~
>>> Qi Song
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, June 7, 2013 at 1:35:26 AM UTC-7, Michael B. wrote:
>>>> I checked that out in my batch importer (have a look at it on github). 
>>>> MapDB performs pretty good, but in the end, the index look-ups aren't 
>>>> the big bottleneck. If you need to make normal index operation at any 
>>>> point (to make sure you're not importing duplicates) or iterate over 
>>>> relationships of nodes to create unique relationships, everything's 
>>>> becoming way slower. 
>>>> 
>>>> As far as Batch imports go, I think an in-memory MapDB ist the best 
>>>> option. You might want to include some kind of function to create an 
>>>> in-memory index on specific Labels/keys to allow for fast access to 
>>>> whatever's desired for batch loads. 
>>>> 
>>>> Here's what I did for Batch loads: 
>>>> https://github.com/mybyte/tools/blob/master/Turtle%20loader/src/de/miba/neo4j/loader/turtle/Neo4jMapDBBatchHandler.java
>>>>  
>>>> The import went fine, pretty fast I'd say. The bigger problem is 
>>>> overall performance on all the node operations... 
>>>> 
>>>> On Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 10:26:47, Michael Hunger wrote: 
>>>> > Actually I want to update the CSV batch inserter to support index 
>>>> > lookups and use real "csv" that means I'll put MapDB in there, we'll 
>>>> > see how it goes. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > You can also see if just a standard HashMap is good enough for you or 
>>>> > a Trove-primitive Map. Otherwise there is still that trick with the 
>>>> > array of unique values which you can sort and then use the array index 
>>>> > as node-id. inserter.createNode(index, props) and then the id-lookup 
>>>> > for rels is just Arrays.binarySearch(array, value) 
>>>> > 
>>>> > I also have to update the batch-importer to 2.0 but that's a bigger 
>>>> > piece of work. As lots of the internals changed in between. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Michael 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Michael B. <[email protected] 
>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> >     Michael Hunger has actually written a blog entry on this. Check 
>>>> >     his blog out: http://jexp.de/blog/ 
>>>> > 
>>>> >     Standard Lucene performs poorly in many cases. The only thing it's 
>>>> >     good at is full text search with N-Gram. If you don't need that, 
>>>> >     any key-value storm performs better, e.g. MapDB or Voldemort. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> >     On Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 07:41:34, Jennifer Smith wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> >         Hi Michael, 
>>>> > 
>>>> >         Yes I was considering using MapDB. We actually do use the 
>>>> > standard 
>>>> >         lucene indexes during our existing 1.9x batch insertion. We 
>>>> >         also do a 
>>>> >         pre-existing data check when inserting nodes and entities that 
>>>> >         uses 
>>>> >         the index. So far it's been fast enough - by that I mean 
>>>> >         taking 2/3 
>>>> >         hours for about 50 million nodes, 90 million relationships! 
>>>> >         But when 
>>>> >         we need more performance, I am happy to explore mapdb as an 
>>>> >         option at 
>>>> >         import time. I would also probably be interested in using this 
>>>> >         as a 
>>>> >         permanent index too, rather than just at import time. 
>>>> > 
>>>> >         Thanks 
>>>> > 
>>>> >         Jen 
>>>> > 
>>>> >         On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:31:59 UTC+1, Michael B. wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> >             Check out my blog entry on batch imports: 
>>>> >         
>>>> > http://michaelbloggs.blogspot.__com/2013/05/importing-ttl-__turtle-ontologies-in-neo4j.__html
>>>> >  
>>>> >         
>>>> > <http://michaelbloggs.blogspot.com/2013/05/importing-ttl-turtle-ontologies-in-neo4j.html>
>>>> >  
>>>> > 
>>>> >         
>>>> > <http://michaelbloggs.__blogspot.com/2013/05/__importing-ttl-turtle-__ontologies-in-neo4j.html
>>>> >  
>>>> >         
>>>> > <http://michaelbloggs.blogspot.com/2013/05/importing-ttl-turtle-ontologies-in-neo4j.html>>
>>>> >  
>>>> > 
>>>> >             Labels are a bit complicated. You shouldn't /commit /to 
>>>> >         indices 
>>>> > 
>>>> >             during batch imports (but you can add stuff to them) - 
>>>> > they'll 
>>>> >             make everything incredibly slow. Michael Hunger suggested 
>>>> >         to use 
>>>> >             MapDB as a temporary index. That's what I'd do in your 
>>>> > place. 
>>>> >             Either do it like I did (for small data sets a HashMap is 
>>>> > more 
>>>> >             than enough) and use a java.util.Map implementation + index 
>>>> > as 
>>>> >             fallback for the nodes that are in the DB, but haven't been 
>>>> >             imported by your application or use a MapDB instead. 
>>>> > 
>>>> >             Regards, 
>>>> >             Michael 
>>>> > 
>>>> >             On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 11:47:25 UTC+2, Jennifer Smith 
>>>> > wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> >                 Hi there, 
>>>> > 
>>>> >                 I have been looking at the docs for 2.0 particularly 
>>>> >         around 
>>>> >                 support for labels during batch import. 
>>>> > 
>>>> >                 I see there is support for adding labels to nodes 
>>>> >         during batch 
>>>> >                 import, directly querying labels for nodes and so on. 
>>>> >         However, 
>>>> >                 unless I am missing something I don't see that there is 
>>>> >                 support for locating a node by label and ID. I have 
>>>> >         found I 
>>>> >                 have needed to do this when I import a large dataset 
>>>> >         where the 
>>>> >                 relationships come separately from the nodes (say a 
>>>> >         dump from 
>>>> >                 a relational database) and I need to use an external ID 
>>>> > to 
>>>> >                 find the nodes for the relationship. 
>>>> > 
>>>> >                  I wondered what the intended approach for looking up 
>>>> >         a node 
>>>> >                 by label and ID is during batch import. I can see the 
>>>> >                 following choices: 
>>>> > 
>>>> >                 - Use the standard EmbeddedGraphDatabase (making sure 
>>>> >         to have 
>>>> >                 shut down the batch inserter of course) to look up the 
>>>> >         nodes 
>>>> >                 for a bunch of relationship inserts before going into 
>>>> >         insert mode. 
>>>> >                 - Use the BatchInserterIndexProvider to somehow hack 
>>>> >         into the 
>>>> >                 underlying index that I believe is created for labels 
>>>> >                 - Be patient and wait for support to appear in the 
>>>> >         batch API 
>>>> >                 for querying nodes by label and ID :) 
>>>> > 
>>>> >                 Thanks 
>>>> > 
>>>> >                 Jen 
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