CORRECTION :
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This is the right customs rule:

• Under €22,-- (about $28.00) It is free
• Between €22,-- and €149,-- ($117.00) You have to pay 19% purchase tax over 
the total of the value plus postage fee and other costs.
• From €150,-- and more, there is a duty of 12% total of the value plus the 
other costs above

eric


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Tidak Ada
Sent: maandag 9 januari 2012 20:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] OT: overseas shipping / customs

Here in the Netherlands duty is paid if the value is above a certain amount (as 
far as I remember about $45 including shipment). If you want the fine print, 
I'll check it. So it may be in some cases wise to divide a shipment over 
multiple packages and sometimes it is wise to take the risk to let send it in 
assured if the buyer agrees the risk.
What also helps is to announce it as defect and 'without economic value'.
That is what I do for tubes, sold for an ePay fancy price, with open filament 
or other scrap. Actually that is the truth in those cases.

Anyhow, I am wondering that American people, who are so opposite against tax 
payment, is so strict in this matter...

Consider that customs aren't very compliant in case of their failure. Once I 
had to pay $100 for a parcel that after opening proved not to be for me.
It was tough work to get somewhat of the money back and then even  excluding 
administration costs. It took 3 months and a claw full of phone coins to get 
$60 on my account :-((. 
The problem was the seller had placed my address on somebody else's parcel.
I was not allowed not check the content before acceptance.

eric.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Instrument Resources of America
Sent: maandag 9 januari 2012 17:56
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] OT: overseas shipping / customs

     It seems standard for them to "ask for it", as a lot of them do, because 
the import duties, fees, customs are quite substantial in some countries. But I 
believe that there are many laws that you would be breaking if you lied about 
it the form.
     An interesting side note follows. There is now a seller on Ebay selling 
what he refers to as a 'consolidating service' for international buyers.
There is probably some legitimacy to the service, but I 'suspect' that it has 
more to do  with how to get out of paying customs fees etc. Here's how I see it 
working. An over seas buyer buys a number of lots on ebay, and or elsewhere. 
All lots are then shipped to the "consolidation point" and are consolidated. 
The 'consolidator' then puts a very low or zero dollar amount on the customs 
forms since he is not the SELLER of the items. He may even just put the fee 
that he charges for his "consolidating" service. Thus the buyer gets away 
without having to pay for the customs fees, etc.  If you want to check it out, 
look at item number 120837996465 on eBay right now. I could be wrong about 
this, but all kinds of red flags and sirens went off with me when I read about 
it. Take care, and my advice is do NOT do something that could possibly 
come back and haunt you.     Ira.




On 1/9/2012 8:19 AM, Adam Jacobs wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>   This is completely off-topic, but I know that there are many members 
> here who do a lot of shipping of product overseas and I'd like your 
> opinion. I usually don't sell anything to anyone overseas (it's a 
> hassle), but recently I made an exception. After the sale was made, 
> the buyer is now asking me to note it as a "gift" on the customs forms 
> so that he does not have to pay import taxes.
> Is this standard? My first thought is, "Forget it!" and just note down 
> the actual value he paid. However, I seem to recall that just about 
> anything I've ever purchased from overseas sellers always seems to 
> have it marked as a gift on the customs forms. So, the question: Is 
> this standard practice?
>
> -Adam
>

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