May be, besides PanaplexR, VFD with an orange phosphor is an alternative (if
such a phosphor exists for that purpose). But I am afraid the construction
of an VFD display is way more complicated...

eric

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Sent: zaterdag 28 januari 2012 23:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hello from Sydney

It is not that easy:

The product of pressure and electrode distance determines the striking
voltage (Paschen's curves). It is roughly U_strike ~ [p*d]^2 where p is
pressure and d is distance. If you decrease the distance, then you have to
use a higher pressure to obtain the same striking voltage. The higher
pressure condenses the glowing and makes it not as visible as before. 
The alternative - a higher striking voltage with the old pressure - is also
not a good idea since you will have sparkovers in your tube that way.

I am not saying it is impossible, I just want to make the point that most
dimensions found in a commercially made Nixie tube are results of long
development.

Jens



> Yes, if you could manufacture new NL-4998 tubes that were only half 
> the height of the original ones (12.5mm versus 25mm), you would end up 
> with a tube that had great potential for wristwatch applications!
>
>
> On Jan 29, 8:51 am, jb-electronics<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> I do not think that it is possible to make much smaller Nixie tubes 
>> than the NL-4998 which is basically the tiniest Nixie tube ever made. 
>> The problem is the glow discharge, it is always larger than the 
>> cathode, and you cannot make the cathodes too small because otherwise 
>> you wouldn't be able to discriminate between the digits - it would be
much too blurry.
>>
>> Panaplex displays are much more suited to these dimensions, sadly. 
>> ;-)
>>
>> Jens
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I totally agree with that but I guess the old machinery no longer 
>>> exists so it's going to cost quite a bit to setup a new production 
>>> line for micro sized nixie tubes. I can't really see the micro nixie 
>>> tubes being used in anything else but a retro style application, so 
>>> the market for a tube like that will be very small.
>>> On Jan 29, 6:57 am, kay486<[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>> Id really like to see the finished watch! It would be really 
>>>> awesome if somebody made new tubes using modern technology so they 
>>>> could have much smaller digits, and being able to have them lit all 
>>>> the time, just like normal digital watches.
>>>> Cant wait to see your design.

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