I have just this more to say on this topic and then I'll shut up, unless something new appears. I'd hate to see any of our newer members get stung with this because they either did'nt get to read or see it, or understand the full gravity of it. I also am in 'full agreement' with Frank and what he stated about the moderation issue, and threads dying off of their own accord. Ira.

On 12/3/2012 5:17 AM, Frank Bemelman wrote:
Sorry Nick,
My point would be that such threads die quickly enough anyway, once
everybody affected has had a chance to let go of some steam. People
lost money, and I can not look into their wallets. I can understand some
folks here get upset over Ray’s latest offer and some of them gave
good and useful advice. Not to mention the entertaining remarks about
drives containing pending orders got zapped and the drives containing
design files were saved. Sure I’m harsh, but I can’t help being allergic
to moderation. The yahoo days make no difference.
Cheers, Frank
*From:* Nick <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, December 03, 2012 12:32 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs
Possibly a bit harsh, but you are entitled to your view.
Even in the Yahoo! days, outright commercial threads were closed/not encouraged and personal attacks and venting of gripes, however valid, were also curtailed (and sometimes deleted). In the few years I've been a mod, I've closed a couple of threads (out of nearly 1300) and encouraged commercial, rather than private, vendors to consider a more appropriate forum - the previous thread I closed related to personal comments as well (as you will remember). Enough has been said on the Ray issue - this is a technical forum, so emphatically not a place to settle scores. The point has been made.
Nick

On Monday, 3 December 2012 10:58:30 UTC, Frank Bemelman wrote:

    You should lock yourself, Nick.
    You are turning this place into a kindergarten.

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