I'd really like to see Ahmed's clock before passing judgment. For all we know it could look like this Chronulator: http://www.sharebrained.com/wp-content/2009/01/bombulator-1.jpg
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:48 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > [email protected] > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/neonixie-l/topics> > Google > Groups > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > Topic digest > View all topics > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/neonixie-l/topics> > > - Make a clock, go to jail <#14fda46e3e29d03e_group_thread_0> - 15 > Updates > > Make a clock, go to jail > <http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l/t/76404e31d1b38e39?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > petehand <[email protected]>: Sep 16 02:17AM -0700 > > Although nothing should surprise me by now about the insanity of the > American school system, this one touches a nerve. A kid - a young teenager > - made a clock of his own design, took it to school, and found himself in > police custody accused of making a fake terrorist bomb - a "movie bomb". > Maybe it wouldn't have happened if he'd used nixies instead of 7 segment > displays, as then the morons at his school might have asked him what it > was > instead of instantly recognizing it as a deadly bomb like the ones they've > seen in Hollywood movies. Way to go, teachers, for discouraging him from > ever doing anything creative like that again. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE > Nick <[email protected]>: Sep 16 04:41AM -0700 > > ...also http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34266389 > > Nick > > On Wednesday, 16 September 2015 10:17:55 UTC+1, petehand wrote: > Andy Williams <[email protected]>: Sep 16 10:00AM -0500 > > I saw that on the local news last night. (I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth > area of Texas.) It sounds like the school district is trying to hide behind > a general statement about protecting students and the Irving police > department is blaming the victim. Here’s a more detailed local news story. > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article35430726.html < > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article35430726.html> > > If Ahmed had brought a nixie clock to school, would he have been accused > of making a time machine? > > I would like to add that when I went to high school in Texas in the early > 1970s, I brought an LED clock to electronics class. I wasn’t arrested, > suspended or had the clock confiscated. > > [email protected]: Sep 16 12:30PM -0400 > > Without going into a long email... > > We don't know what the device looks like! We don't even know if it was > counting down or working at all. > > A claim is that he couldn't call his parents, because he was being > searched the entire time. We do have to realize that his parents were > called long > before he even got to the police station, so that would have been on their > way. Very rough to say he wasn't allowed to call them, cause they were > probably on their way or even there before he arrived. We also don't know > what questions were asked or the answers he provided. > It's very possible that they asked... could it be used as a timer for a > bomb and he could have honestly answered that it could be (just like any > timer > or even wrist watch). We simply don't know. > > The major issue here for me is, I hate seeing the race card pulled every > damn time something happens or is done by anyone but white. If anything > happens, it's a 'hate' crime to the media - race or sexual orientation, > etc > just so that it gains media attention. > > Also, as for Nixie clock and school. My son (14 now) built a kit last > year for a kind of show and tell. Although not considered a bomb, they > wouldn't let him, because it was "High Voltage" and considered dangerous. > My son > is white, so I couldn't pull the race card. Also, not gay, so couldn't > call it out as a hate crime / prejudice thing either. > > Also, I would MUCH rather a clock (movie bomb) real or not be taken away. > Too many kids dying in schools by people NOT doing anything about it. How > many kids go to school to get shot up while someone had prior knowledge > that could have prevented the entire issue. Take a $10 clock vs losing > possible many kids to a bomb. (Note, he was warned not to show it to > anyone > else, but still did. - another warning ignored.) > > Michail > > > In a message dated 9/16/2015 8:00:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I saw that on the local news last night. (I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth > area of Texas.) It sounds like the school district is trying to hide > behind > a general statement about protecting students and the Irving police > department is blaming the victim. Here’s a more detailed local news story. > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article35430726.html > > > If Ahmed had brought a nixie clock to school, would he have been accused > of making a time machine? > > > I would like to add that when I went to high school in Texas in the early > 1970s, I brought an LED clock to electronics class. I wasn’t arrested, > suspended or had the clock confiscated. > > > On Sep 16, 2015, at 6:41 AM, Nick <[email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: > > > ...also http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34266389 > > > Nick > > On Wednesday, 16 September 2015 10:17:55 UTC+1, petehand wrote: > Although nothing should surprise me by now about the insanity of the > American school system, this one touches a nerve. A kid - a young teenager > - > made a clock of his own design, took it to school, and found himself in > police > custody accused of making a fake terrorist bomb - a "movie bomb". Maybe it > wouldn't have happened if he'd used nixies instead of 7 segment displays, > as then the morons at his school might have asked him what it was instead > of instantly recognizing it as a deadly bomb like the ones they've seen in > Hollywood movies. Way to go, teachers, for discouraging him from ever > doing > anything creative like that again. > > _https://www.youtube.com/watch?https://www.y_ > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE) > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) . > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) . > To view this discussion on the web, visit > _ > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4505f7d6-3735-452c-813c-15bcd03871fd%40googlegroups.com_ > ( > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4505f7d6-3735-452c-813c-15bcd03871fd > @googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) . > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) . > To view this discussion on the web, visit > _ > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/297535B8-F0F8-4090-9F66-53A4C4857E30%40pobox.com_ > ( > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/297535B8-F0F8-4090-9F66-53A4C4857E30@pobox > . > com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > Jeff Walton <[email protected]>: Sep 16 11:36AM -0500 > > Way too much speculation here... > People sometimes fear what they don't understand. > Jeff > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Michail1 via neonixie-l <[email protected]> > Date: 09/16/2015 11:30 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Make a clock, go to jail > > > Without going into a long email... > > We don't know what the device looks like! We don't even know if it > was counting down or working at all. > > A claim is that he couldn't call his parents, because he was being > searched the entire time. We do have to realize that his parents were > called long before he even got to the police station, so that would have > been on > their way. Very rough to say he wasn't allowed to call them, cause they > were probably on their way or even there before he arrived. We also don't > know what questions were asked or the answers he provided. > It's very possible that they asked... could it be used as a timer for a > bomb and he could have honestly answered that it could be (just like any > timer > or even wrist watch). We simply don't know. > > The major issue here for me is, I hate seeing the race card pulled every > damn time something happens or is done by anyone but white. If anything > happens, it's a 'hate' crime to the media - race or sexual orientation, > etc just > so that it gains media attention. > > Also, as for Nixie clock and school. My son (14 now) built a kit last > year for a kind of show and tell. Although not considered a bomb, they > wouldn't let him, because it was "High Voltage" and considered dangerous. > My son is white, so I couldn't pull the race card. Also, not gay, so > couldn't call it out as a hate crime / prejudice thing either. > > Also, I would MUCH rather a clock (movie bomb) real or not be taken > away. Too many kids dying in schools by people NOT doing anything about > it. How many kids go to school to get shot up while someone had prior > knowledge that could have prevented the entire issue. Take a $10 clock vs > losing possible many kids to a bomb. (Note, he was warned not to show it > to anyone else, but still did. - another warning ignored.) > > Michail > > > In a message dated 9/16/2015 8:00:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > I saw > that on the local news last night. (I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area > of > Texas.) It sounds like the school district is trying to hide behind a > general > statement about protecting students and the Irving police department is > blaming the victim. Here’s a more detailed local news story. > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article35430726.html > > > > If Ahmed had brought a nixie clock to school, would he have been accused > of making a time machine? > > > > I would like to add that when I went to high school in Texas in the early > 1970s, I brought an LED clock to electronics class. I wasn’t arrested, > suspended or had the clock confiscated. > > > > > > On Sep 16, 2015, at 6:41 AM, Nick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ...also http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34266389 > > > > Nick > > On Wednesday, 16 September 2015 10:17:55 UTC+1, petehand > wrote: > > Although nothing should surprise me by now about the insanity > of the American school system, this one touches a nerve. A kid - a young > teenager - made a clock of his own design, took it to school, and found > himself in police custody accused of making a fake terrorist bomb - a > "movie bomb". Maybe it wouldn't have happened if he'd used nixies instead > of 7 segment displays, as then the morons at his school might have asked > him what it was instead of instantly recognizing it as a deadly bomb like > the ones they've seen in Hollywood movies. Way to go, teachers, for > discouraging him from ever doing anything creative like that > again. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE > > > > -- > You > received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To > unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email > to [email protected]. > To > post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To > view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4505f7d6-3735-452c-813c-15bcd03871fd%40googlegroups.com > . > For > more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop > receiving emails from it, send an email to > [email protected]. > To > post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To > view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/297535B8-F0F8-4090-9F66-53A4C4857E30%40pobox.com > . > For > more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > Instrument Resources of America <[email protected]>: Sep 16 09:51AM > -0700 > > On 9/16/2015 8:00 AM, Andy Williams wrote: > > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article35430726.html > > > If Ahmed had brought a nixie clock to school, would he have been > > accused of making a time machine? > Only if he was driving a DeLorean!!!! (Just think of the movie "Back To > The Future") Ira. > David Forbes <[email protected]>: Sep 16 10:12AM -0700 > > Andy, > > Curious, I had the same reaction you got when I brought a home made > clock to school as a teen. "Gee, that's interesting!" I had put it in a > nice wood-grain box, so as not to arouse suspicion. > > I did eventually get in trouble by bringing a key to school that would > open all the PE combo locks, but that was after a year and a half of > having the key, and the assistant principal said their locksmith told > them that it couldn't be done. > > You don't get into education by being clever. > > > On 9/16/15 8:00 AM, Andy Williams wrote: > > -- > David Forbes, Tucson AZ > David Forbes <[email protected]>: Sep 16 10:18AM -0700 > > Michail, > > How many children have brought a homemade explosive device to school > that looked like a clock, in the history of the world? I've never heard > of that happening, ever. On the other hand, I personally have brought > several homemade electronic devices to school that were not bombs. > > The problem is not the kids, it's that school officials think that what > they see in Hollywood movies is real. > > > > On 9/16/15 9:30 AM, Michail1 via neonixie-l wrote: > > -- > David Forbes, Tucson AZ > [email protected]: Sep 16 01:48PM -0400 > > The same was probably said about guns vs toy guns, until it actually > started happening. > > Michail > > > > In a message dated 9/16/2015 10:18:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Michail, > > How many children have brought a homemade explosive device to school > that looked like a clock, in the history of the world? I've never heard > of that happening, ever. On the other hand, I personally have brought > several homemade electronic devices to school that were not bombs. > > The problem is not the kids, it's that school officials think that what > they see in Hollywood movies is real. > Nicholas Stock <[email protected]>: Sep 16 11:06AM -0700 > > If it looked anything like this, then maybe they might have been > concerned.. > > http://www.denkimono.com/products/timer/ > > However, I'll refrain from making any judgements on what appears to be > alarmist and heavy-handed tactics used at the school until all the facts > are in...I've personally taken nixie tube clocks through security at a > couple of Airports now (gifts for friends and family) and apart from a > couple of raised eyebrows and 'man, they look cool' comments from TSA > agents (after they've looked at them and understood *what they are*), > there's been no issue....yet. > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Michail1 via neonixie-l < > "Dan Harboe Burer" <[email protected]>: Sep 16 08:51PM +0200 > > What a crazy story..poor kid..and silly teacher/school... There’s a bigger > chance that a cell phone will explode, rather than his clock.. > ..maybe I should take this thing, with me in the train, to work tomorrow, > and see what happens? > > Dan > > > From: petehand > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:17 AM > To: neonixie-l > Subject: [neonixie-l] Make a clock, go to jail > > Although nothing should surprise me by now about the insanity of the > American school system, this one touches a nerve. A kid - a young teenager > - made a clock of his own design, took it to school, and found himself in > police custody accused of making a fake terrorist bomb - a "movie bomb". > Maybe it wouldn't have happened if he'd used nixies instead of 7 segment > displays, as then the morons at his school might have asked him what it was > instead of instantly recognizing it as a deadly bomb like the ones they've > seen in Hollywood movies. Way to go, teachers, for discouraging him from > ever doing anything creative like that again. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6be5370d-8b54-4e03-b5a4-a2b6252441aa%40googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > "Tidak Ada" <[email protected]>: Sep 16 10:55PM +0200 > > What about a doll made out of Semtex? >:) > <http://www.circuitsonline.net/images/smilies/devil.gif> > > eric > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Dan Harboe Burer > Sent: woensdag 16 september 2015 20:52 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Make a clock, go to jail > > > What a crazy story..poor kid..and silly teacher/school... There's a bigger > chance that a cell phone will explode, rather than his clock.. > ..maybe I should take this thing, with me in the train, to work tomorrow, > and see what happens? Smiley med tungen ud af munden > > Dan > > > From: petehand <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:17 AM > To: neonixie-l <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [neonixie-l] Make a clock, go to jail > > Although nothing should surprise me by now about the insanity of the > American school system, this one touches a nerve. A kid - a young teenager > - > made a clock of his own design, took it to school, and found himself in > police custody accused of making a fake terrorist bomb - a "movie bomb". > Maybe it wouldn't have happened if he'd used nixies instead of 7 segment > displays, as then the morons at his school might have asked him what it was > instead of instantly recognizing it as a deadly bomb like the ones they've > seen in Hollywood movies. Way to go, teachers, for discouraging him from > ever doing anything creative like that again. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6be5370d-8b54-4e03-b5a4-a2b6252 > 441aa%40googlegroups.com > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6be5370d-8b54-4e03-b5a4-a2b625 > 2441aa%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/B8718E52ACF44D1F9DA4554F747AFAD > 2%40DanDims > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/B8718E52ACF44D1F9DA4554F747AFA > D2%40DanDims?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > Quixotic Nixotic <[email protected]>: Sep 16 10:11PM +0100 > > On 16 Sep 2015, at 21:55, Tidak Ada wrote: > > > What about a doll made out of Semtex? > > When asked at a UK airport if I had packed anything I shouldn't, a few > years back, I mentioned marzipan. The officer said any more cracks like > that and I would not be flying anywhere. He was really vicious about it. > > John S > Instrument Resources of America <[email protected]>: Sep 16 02:23PM > -0700 > > A LOT of the security folks at all airports have ""ZERO"" sense of > humor. I have not a clue how they make it through the day, or what their > after work lives must be like. Ira. > > > > > On 9/16/2015 2:11 PM, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: > Wayne de Geere <[email protected]>: Sep 16 02:58PM -0700 > > Mark Zuckerberg posted this today to Facebook: > > "You’ve probably seen the story about Ahmed, the 14 year old student in > Texas who built a clock and was arrested when he took it to school. > > Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to > applause, not arrest. The future belongs to people like Ahmed. > > Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I'd love to meet you. Keep > building." > > I also asked my friends at BoingBoing to cover it as well: > > > http://boingboing.net/2015/09/16/making-while-brown-texas-scho.html?utm_source=moreatbb&utm_medium=nextpost&utm_campaign=nextpostthumbnails > > And the school district doubled down, asking parents to report anything > that scares them, assuming that to be smart young men of brown shade who > are makers: > > > http://www.irvingisd.net/cms/lib010/TX01917973/Centricity/Domain/9/ParentLetter_SuspiciousLookingItematMacArthur.pdf?utm_content=bufferfca92&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer > > bb spoofs Apple in the garage history "Man of Syrian descent found in > garage building what looks like a bomb" (the Apple I): > > http://boingboing.net/2015/09/16/arab-looking-man-of-syrian-des.html > > And President Obama invites boy who was arrested for making clock to the > Whitehouse: > > http://boingboing.net/2015/09/16/president-obama-invites-the-bo.html > > I'd say when the kid is compared to Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak and the > President of the U.S. Invites the kid, that the idiots who did this have > effectively been spanked. > > I'd think more about the kid's opportunity for a lawsuit for the false > arrest and impingement to his character, the future lifetime of lost > income, etc. by having his character assailed by Idocracy morons at the > school and in the local law enforcement, etc etc. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Back to top <#14fda46e3e29d03e_digest_top> > You have received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for > this group. 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