OK, so now I looked at the schematic you posted [it is a slightly changed TI ap 
it seems].
I took it at face value that the BOM was correct, but I don't see one in that 
pdf you attached.

The schematic uses 7400 series.

There are  "Changes to original..." at top left of sheet 4.
In those changes I see no mention of LS being considered.

I agree that it IS a good approach to check the design calculations - 
especially in this case where the documentation apparently mismatches.

A question then... are the resistors being discussed  ( sh1  R1, R2, R3 ) 
actually  the talked about 360 ohms? Have their values been changed on the 
board or in the BOM?


John K.
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  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:41 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Taylor Edge Nixie Clock Kit


  Just wanted to update everyone on where we are at on this project. One of the 
first things that my friend Mike questioned was why are we using 74LS series 
instead of 7400. I have order new ICs for everything except the 141s. Here is 
the last update that I received from him.
     
  Ok, did some quick calculations, and the drive current needed to drive the 
7417 from the output of the counter with the 360 ohm resistor to VCC, you need 
14ma.  The current output of the 74LSxx counter is only 8ma, and the 74xx is 
16ma.  When and if the 7417 see's a good logic low on it's input, it's output 
will switch low pulling the 510 ohm low, 9ma needed, helping drive the counter 
output low.  The 74LS17 can drive 30ma, so that can help once it can see a good 
logic low (.8V) on the input.  So, if we increase the resistance of the 360 ohm 
resistor to 625 ohms, that may be a place to start.  These are rough 
calculations, but I would go back to using the 74xx's instead of the 74LSxx's 
this would have been better.

  Mike




  On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 6:37:54 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
    I'm hoping that someone out there can help me with a problem that I am 
having with a Taylor Edge clock kit that I built. After completing the kit and 
plugging it in it seemed to be working fine. Then I noticed that the 10s second 
display tube and the 10s minute display tube were not counting correctly. They 
would count from 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 but then it would go back to 3 then 4 then 
back to 2 and then start the sequence over again. The 1s second and 10s minute 
tubes would count fine. I asked a friend of mine that knows a lot more about 
this stuff than I do and he recommended that I try disconnecting resistors R13 
and R15 (both 240 ohm) from the time setting circuit to see what would happen. 
This fixed the counting problem but now I cannot set the time. I can't believe 
that I am the only person that has had this problem and am hoping someone out 
there knows the answer. I am attaching the schematic.


    Thanks
    Dave

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