i know this is an old pose but i have some 22v10's, what kind of stuff have 
you made with them?  using one as a bargraph driver or shift register woud 
be nice for my projects since i have some neon clock displays and uusing 
one to multiples it would be cool, its an old gold ceramic 22v10, but its 
one time programable only sadly, but i bought others that are reusable, but 
still no way to program them tho

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 4:36:16 PM UTC-7, threeneurons wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 10:38:35 PM UTC-7, gregebert wrote:
>>
>> Long live PALASM !   I used CUPL a few times in the late 1980's.
>>
>> Were you able to program your device at home ? Most of the tools back 
>> then were not free, and out-of-reach for hobbyists.
>> I remember sneaking into the lab during lunch hour to program EPROMs.
>>
>
> During the 80's, I had the keys to work, so I had free run of the 
> equipment, after hours. I used that equipment on my senior project, and 
> wrote my college papers on the company's CP/M computer in Wordstar. I think 
> I got good grades on my reports, not for the content, but because the 
> margins lined up on both the left and right side. The company had Tektronix 
> development systems for working on microprocessors. An 8002 and a 8550. 
> School had a lab full of HP 64000s, which were always occupied. Both the HP 
> and Tektronix units cost well in the 10's of 1000s of dollars. By the 
> mid-80s, however, emulator pods, that plugged into an IBM PC, started to 
> become popular. Those sold in the $2K to $5K range. By ~1990, the IC makers 
> started selling evaluation boards, for only a few 100 bucks. I picked up a 
> Motorola HC05 EVM board for under $500, and it worked well as a development 
> platform. Of course, now I use AVR tools, that cost less than $35.
>
> I own a programmer than can do MACH devices, and it cost me in the 
> ballpark of $200, back in the early 90s. I haven't used it in years. 
> Haven't erased an EPROM, or quartz windowed uC (usually an HC05-C8) in over 
> 20 years. Don't drop a ceramic quartz windowed 22V10. They break in two, 
> when they hit the floor.
>  
>

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