Hello Again group! 

I've been testing this for a while, and I still have some delay minutes. 
This is the PCB design I'm using and components.

*Components: *
·PIC16F1936 
·CRYSTAL MS3V-T1R CRYSTAL 32.768 Khz. 
·Capacitors ( used 6.0 ; 7.0 ; 9.0 & 12.5) pF as datasheet from crystal 
recommend.
·Resistor value between 50/65 K ohm. 

*PCB Design: *

This design is done following the document you guys added called:  
Microship TB097 which give's good instructions on how install Crystals to 
our pics. 


Guys, My head is gonna explote because I don't find the problem that is 
making minutes delays in 24H (About 3 mins per 24H).

I'm questioning two fact's that can be making this delay:

*1.* Pins connections between Crystal + Pic. In some other designs, crystal 
is attached to other pins. For example.

Example A) Crystal pins connected to *PIN 9: A7/CLKIN* & *PIN 10: 
A6/CLKOUT.*

Example B) Crystal pins connected to *PIN 11: RC0/T1OSO *& 
*PIN 12: RC1/T1OSI. *

this make's me think that I'm connectin the crystal to wrong pins? what's 
the difference between them? 

*2*. Maybe I need to try better with other cap values? 

*3.* Software getting the count wrong? 

Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate your time and help.

Christopher..





El jueves, 20 de mayo de 2021 a las 21:09:01 UTC+2, Dekatron42 escribió:

> Since this is a Tuning Fork type of crystal they are sensitive to to much 
> energy and might become damaged if you use them incorrectly. You should 
> read this article: 
> http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/appnotes/91097a.pdf and also read 
> the Microchip application note above that Bill van Dijk suggested as they 
> both explain/discuss how to use this type of crystal.
>
> In this document for the PIC-processor in question: 
> http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/41364e.pdf they also 
> mention the 91097a.pdf above as a document to read on page 71.
>
> /Martin
>
> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 20:40:49 UTC+2 MrThe50sanchez wrote:
>
>> Ei Martin! 
>>
>> I'm using PIC16F1936 (16F family!) 
>>
>> my connections are the following.
>>
>> Crystal pin 1 - RA7/OSC1/CLKIN/SEG2
>> Crystal pin 2 - RA6/OSC2/CLKOUT/VCAP/SEG1
>>
>>  
>> I add you my pcb design (The old one) and the new one! 
>>
>> (OLD ONE)
>>  [image: old ddesign.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> NEW DESIGN
>> [image: new design.png]
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot! 
>>
>> El jue, 20 may 2021 a las 16:28, Dekatron42 (<[email protected]>) 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> What PIC-controller is the crystal hooked up to? Did you follow the 
>>> design specifications for using the crystal you chose?
>>>
>>> /Martin
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 16:03:55 UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> All the cheap watches and clock movements seem to use the same small 
>>>> cylindrical crystal.  I got many of mine by taking them out of old watches 
>>>> or clocks that had stopped working properly (like worn out gears in a 
>>>> clock).  If you do not already have any in your junk box, you should be 
>>>> able to buy a working one from a street vendor or flea market for under 
>>>> € 5, and probably less than € 1.  Also, new crystals will cost less 
>>>> than US$1 each (plus shipping and handling), so you could buy several and 
>>>> select the one that works the best.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 11:55:42 PM UTC-7 MrThe50sanchez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ? Any recommendations of where can I get a good quality cristal for my 
>>>>> watch?
>>>>>
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