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On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 12:49:13 PM UTC-5 Instrument Resources of 
America wrote:

> I saw bombarding being done. I sit here now shaking and shuddering from 
> the experience. Here is a fairly detailed video of neon sign 
> manufacturing.       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH635AEawGY          
> The bombarding process starts at about 12:30. The demonstration that I saw, 
> they deliberately drew a two foot arc just for show. It was impressive, and 
> S-C-A-R-R-Y. This may not help you with your endeavors, but it is 
> interesting, and mentions 'neon' a number of times.
>
> Ira.
>
>
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> On 11/22/2024 8:27 PM, gregebert wrote:
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> Several years ago I researched neon signage, and you need a high-vacuum, 
> around 1 micron (10-3 Torr). The books I have didn't get into specific 
> vacuum levels, as there are multiple ways to cleanse the tubes, notably via 
> bombarding. They did not cover nixie tubes. 
>
> To get micron-level vacuum, you need a mechanical pump to get around 100 
> microns, followed by a diffusion pump. There might be other ways to get the 
> required cleanliness without a diffusion pump, but I dont have any details. 
> If you just want to do some experimenting, start with a mechanical pump. I 
> plan to do that soon, as I have a small pump used for evacuating air 
> conditioning equipment.
>
> Some of the reasons I'm not doing neon work are the cost of the equipment, 
> the dangers of bombarding, need for mercury to extend tube life, and I 
> expect it to be difficult to find getter material. All I want to do is get 
> some sort of discharge glow, and play around with easy-to-find gases like 
> argon and helium.
>
> I saw a mention in the Weston book of pressures in the 10-2 to 10-4 Torr, 
> though it covers theory of operation rather than fabrication details.
> On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 12:33:28 PM UTC-8 Miles Thatch wrote:
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