I understand completely. Then there are only two solutions, insulation, or cathodes that don't deform. Thanks.

Ira



On 12/3/2024 1:21 AM, Sadudu wrote:
1. The first issue: discharge is not actually the main concern. The spacing in Nixie tubes can be made very small, as seen in some smaller tubes like the IN16, where the spacing is less than 1mm. One of the significant reasons for increasing the spacing is that the cathodes can deform when heated, which can cause short circuits between cathodes and reduce the yield rate. If you observe closely, the spacing of some digits is not uniform. For example, the distance between the IN18’s cathodes and the anode mesh or backplate is larger. This is to prevent the cathodes from deforming and connecting during baking

2. The second issue: theoretically, the higher the temperature, the better, as it is more conducive to removing impurity gases inside the tube. However, it is usually limited by other factors, such as the melting point of the glass, the power of the oven, and so on

3. There is no standard thickness for the glass tube; you can choose the one you prefer.

4. The last issue: because the IN12 is inexpensive, the cost of producing your own may not even be cheaper than the IN12. The purpose of mass-producing Nixie tubes is to make a profit; no one will do business that doesn't make money. The same as your question, why not top view.

I am Sadudu, a new nixie tube maker. We have made good success on nixie tube, DGM01 is our first nixie tube. We have now started mass production . Here is our website : inixielab.com, welcome to visit.

On Tuesday, December 3, 2024 at 10:15:28 AM UTC+8 Instrument Resources of America wrote:

    Regarding question number one. Might it not be possible to hold
    the adjacent cathodes just below their ignition point and thereby
    lower the voltage between the lit cathode and the adjacent
    cathodes? With micro processor control, I would think that just
    about anything would be possible.

    Ira.



    On 12/1/2024 8:05 AM, martin martin wrote:
    Have you been yo Dalibor’s site ?  He may be the modern expert at
    Nixie design. He will certainly answer your questions.

    [email protected]


    On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 07:58 HikariFaith <[email protected]> wrote:

        I have a few niche questions related to the making of nixie
        tubes I can't seem to find definitive answers to anywhere. I
        have a feeling someone here would be able to help me figure
        them out.

        1. I understand that the cathodes need a certain amount of
        separation to prevent arcing, but has anyone tried
        alternative methods of cathode production in an effort to
        make that space smaller? The two that immediately come to
        mind are sputtering tungsten coatings on an insulating
        material and the inverse of that, which is coating the back
        of the tungsten wire with an insulating material. I had also
        been wondering if it would be possible to prevent arcing some
        other way.

        2. When working borosilicate during the tube construction,
        how hot do the components inside get? I'm thinking both in
        terms of components directly touching the heated glass and
        those not touching (including indirectly). I'm asking to
        figure out what thermal tolerances I should look for in
        materials used to make a nixie tube.

        3. How thick are the walls of a borosilicate nixie tube?
        Ideally, I'd have as specific an answer as possible.

        4. Why haven't new manufacturers of nixies made any top-view
        nixies like the IN-12?
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