Thanks Brian! I bookmarked that page for future use. Dave
---- Original Message ---- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Power Supply Connections Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:35:44 -0500 >I bought a Paladin 1670 crimper from Redco to replace an old one that > >was stolen. The price has gone up a bit to $129, and the $&(%#! >extractor is now $70! > >http://www.redco.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=35&cat=EDAC%2FELCO+Se >ries+Connectors > >Best, > >Bri > > > >[email protected] wrote: >> Ouch! That's a bit much for now. I'll cross that bridge when I come >> to it. I'm hoping the only configuring I'll need to do is for the >> multitrack outs. >> >> Thanks again, >> Dave >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Power Supply Connections >> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:21:27 +0100 >> >>> Hi >>> The crimp tool is devilishly expensive so unless you are crimping >>> thousands of pins solder is the better bet. You can also change >them >>> easily without ejecting the pins. >>> Tools are available from EDAC or Varelco suppliers. Crimp tools >>> around >>> 200 pounds in the UK. >>> Matt S >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> Hi Matt, >>>> Thanks for your reply. I haven't looked inside to see if >they're >>>> crimped or soldered. Is one easier or better than another? Any >>> idea >>>> where I can get the crimper or ejector tool if I need one? >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> ---- Original Message ---- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Power Supply Connections >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:22:56 +0100 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Dave >>>>> EDACs have 3 possible pin types. >>>>> One is for circuit board mounting, which you won't have. >>>>> Then there is a crimp type which needs the correct tool to make >>>>> connections. >>>>> Lastly there is solder type which you obviously solder. >>>>> You can get a pin ejector tool which you can release the gold >pins >>>>> >>>> >from >>>> >>>>> the housing if you need to 'reallocate' a few connections. The >>>>> ejector >>>>> will release all 3 types of pin. >>>>> In desperation you can get the pins out using a very fine >>> jewellers >>>>> screwdriver as the pins have a 'barb' on one side which lock >into >>> the >>>>> plastic moulding. >>>>> >>>>> Matt S >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again Ike, >>>>>> I've got an edac snake for the master section. The snake is >>>>>> >>>>> labled >>>>> >>>>>> like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> Cue 1 & 2 In L-R >>>>>> Cue A-B In L-R >>>>>> Studio Mon In L-R >>>>>> Control Room Monitor A In L-R >>>>>> Control Room Monitor B In L-R >>>>>> Control Room Monitor C In L-R >>>>>> 2 Trk 1 In/Out 1-2 (XLR) >>>>>> 2 Trk 2 In/Out 1-2 (XLR) >>>>>> 2 Trk 3 In/Out 1-2 (XLR) >>>>>> 2 Trk 4 In/Out 1-2 (XLR) >>>>>> Reverb 1-4 (not sure what these are for) >>>>>> >>>>>> There are snakes for Pro Tools that I'll have to re-terminate >for >>>>>> >>>>> my >>>>> >>>>>> Alesis HD24's. I'm going old school for the time being - no >>>>>> >>>>> computer! >>>>> >>>>>> I've never used edac connectors before. Is there a tool for >>> making >>>>>> the connections inside them? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again, >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- Original Message ---- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Power Supply Connections >>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:48:48 -0400 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anytime! Feel free to ask whatever you want, whenever you need >>> to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's usually somebody available with an answer. >>>>>>> Did your console come with cabling/edac connectors? >>>>>>> Connector 1 is usually all of the I/O for the master section >>>>>>> Including the monitors. >>>>>>> Best >>>>>>> Ike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2010-03-29, at 11:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Ike & KB. The Elite is going to be a whole new >>> experience >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> me. I honestly know very little about it and most of my >>> learning >>>>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>>>>> going to be from hands on experience. I've never had a board >>>>>>>> >>>>> where >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> couldn't just plug everything in the back. Hopefully I can >>> figure >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the cabeling for my speakers. That'll be the next step. I'll >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> probably >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> show up here from time to time for a bit of help. I'll try >not >>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> bug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you guys too much! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again for getting me started! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave Spencer >>>>>>>> Morgantown, WV >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---- Original Message ---- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Power Supply Connections >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:45:31 -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HI David, >>>>>>>>> Welcome to the list and congratulations on the Elite. >>> They're >>>>>>>>> great >>>>>>>>> consoles...I love em'. >>>>>>>>> Power supply business: >>>>>>>>> 1st up, you double up the connections from the power supply >at >>>>>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>>>>> console end, hence the difference in the number of >terminals. >>>>>>>>> Connections: >>>>>>>>> -18v = -Analog power, color code: Blue and blue/black >>>>>>>>> +18v = + Analog power, cc: Red and Red/black >>>>>>>>> Bipolar Ground = Analog Phantom Ground, cc: Black, >Black/White >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _AND_ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> White/Black (3 wires). The white/black lead is the +48v >Ground >>>>>>>>> >>>>> at >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS-3 end. >>>>>>>>> +48v = Phantom Power, cc: White >>>>>>>>> +36v = Meter Power, cc: Orange >>>>>>>>> Meter Ground = Meter Ground, cc: Orange/Black >>>>>>>>> -25v = Logic Power, cc: Green >>>>>>>>> Logic Ground = Logic Ground, cc: Green/black >>>>>>>>> That's it. Take your time, double check your connections >>> and >>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> check them again...and then power it up. >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Ike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/29/2010 5:33 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Greetings to all! I picked up a 1993 Elite. I've made the >>> jump >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mackie. I've never had a board like this and I'm needing >some >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> help >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> with the power supply connections. Sorry for the freshman >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> question, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but I'm trying to get this thing up and running without any >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> help. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 12 terminals on the rear of the supply are connected to the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> power >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> supply cable, but there are only 8 terminals on the board. >>> I'm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sure which wires connect to which terminals. There are >lables >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> on >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> terminals of both the supply and the board, but they are >not >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> all >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> same. How can I determine which connections to make? Here >are >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 12 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> terminals on the rear of the supply, and the 8 terminals on >>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> board: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Supply: >>>>>>>>>> 1. -18V >>>>>>>>>> 2. -18V >>>>>>>>>> 3. Bipolar Ground >>>>>>>>>> 4. Bipolar Ground >>>>>>>>>> 5. +18V >>>>>>>>>> 6. +18V >>>>>>>>>> 7. +48V >>>>>>>>>> 8. Phantom Ground >>>>>>>>>> 9. +35V >>>>>>>>>> 10. Meter Ground >>>>>>>>>> 11. -25V >>>>>>>>>> 12. Logic Ground >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Board: >>>>>>>>>> 1. - analog power >>>>>>>>>> 2. + analog power >>>>>>>>>> 3. Analog Phantom Ground >>>>>>>>>> 4. Phantom Power >>>>>>>>>> 5. Logic Ground >>>>>>>>>> 6. Logic Power >>>>>>>>>> 7. Meter Ground >>>>>>>>>> 8. 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