Ike - the VU was constantly dumping its oscillations onto the power rails.
 It was certainly custom fit to the desk in question - nothing against the
man, but it was a Triosi VU.  I saw a burned resistor on it's PCB, never had
the time to investigate further.

FM


On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Ike Zimbel <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>  Yes, in the master section. Frank, was the VU meter making noise while at
> rest, or only when responding to program?
> best,
> Ike
>
>
> On 11-07-18 7:36 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Ike, Logic chips in the master section or??
>>
>>
>> thanks , doug
>>
>> *From: *"Ike Zimbel" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Monday, July 18, 2011 4:09:59 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: NEOTEK:  aux noise
>>
>>
>>  Hi Doug,
>>     Following on Matt's suggestions, I would agree that the oscillator
>> section could be suspect. I would also check that all of the logic chips
>> are well seated and that their leads and sockets look good. Replace them
>> if they don't. Also make sure that all of the ground connections,
>> including mechanical connections to the front panel (pots, switches
>> etc.) are clean and tight. It is unlikely that the Aux sends are
>> creating this noise, but more likely they are amplifying noise that's
>> coming from something common to them, again as Matt said. I am away from
>> the shop for a couple of weeks so I don't have access to my Elan
>> drawings to give you specific chip names, locations etc.
>> Best,
>> Ike
>>
>> On 11-07-18 8:54 AM, Matt Syson wrote:
>> > Hi
>> > You are looking for something 'common' as it adds up when listening to
>> > more stuff on Solo.
>> > It could be supply noise (check with an oscilloscope) or a module
>> > which is seriously noisy or even talkback or slate tone circuitry that
>> > has access to aux  busses although may be nominally 'switched off'.
>> > Double check all possible outputs and look for any 'common' circuitry
>> > (the 'block diagram' should get you close). Ultimately, pull modules
>> > or 'break up' the mix bussing if it is available on plugs.
>> > Matt S
>> >
>> > On 18/07/2011 13:35, [email protected]
>> > <mailto:[email protected]**> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hello, I think this is the way to post here.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have a 15 year old 40 channel Elan I bought new. It's been very
>> >> reliable. It was in a fire 7 years ago. I got it back in commission
>> >> after a couple of idle years of storage and cleaning/repairing. It
>> >> was recommissioned and has done pretty well, everything works except
>> >> some partially working l.e.d. meters.
>> >>
>> >>  Lately the master section has a small ripply sound when cranked all
>> >> the way up without channels turned on. Small annoyance, but
>> >> irritating. However when you solo the auxes you get a really intense
>> >> version of hiss noise ripply trash, sounds like a combination of
>> >> computer interference meets bad caps/junk. As I said it's appeared of
>> >> the last few months. Soloing A,B,1,2,3,4, just adds to the crap
>> >> incrementally.  When using the track busses to pro tools, it's fine ,
>> >> goes to pro tools good and quietly.
>> >>
>> >> I recently tested and or replaced all the resistors in the power
>> >> supply and recapped the power supply. I also disconnected the Elcos
>> >> for everthing except the monitor one to the amps to make sure it
>> >> wasn't from another piece of gear.
>> >> I still have the trashy sound in auxes. Any suggestions? Any logical
>> >> procedure to locate the source of my noise?
>> >>
>> >> thanks , doug
>>
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