Hi Pete,

I can't really add anything specific regarding interface with a 3C, however I have a good deal of experience with subs. First off is that a significant benefit of the sub is to unburden the main speakers (and amp to a somewhat lesser degree) of the reproduction of the lowest frequencies. This will reduce the IMD (Inter Modulation Distortion) component and can really clean up the sound. So use an outboard cross over to relieve the mains from this load.

A few other thoughts (in no particular order) are: the built in crossovers in most subs are a pretty weak point. I ended up bypassing that part of my Velodyne UDL 18 and it really helped. They tend to use a very simple, minimum parts count circuit in this position. Next, you can really optimize the blend of the sub with the mains (this can be difficult to end up with a "seamless" transition) by adjusting not only the cross over point, but the steepness of slope on both sides and the relative gains.

A simple way to set the sub gain without any test gear is to start with it at zero, gradually have your helper bring it up while you sit in the "sweet spot" till you just notice it; then turn it down a bit. That's likely a good starting point. Try to find the specs on your mains and find where the low F response starts to drop off; this will help you to establish the cross over point.

I have an article I wrote on sub woofer integration a few years back; if I can find it, I'd be glad to pass it on. However, I think it ended up archived on a computer I can't get to right now. If you have any specific questions, I'll be glad to try to answer them. Best of luck!

Regards, Jim



On 2/20/2012 1:33 PM, pete wrote:
quick question for the list...

i have a cheap-o active sub i'd like to integrate into my series IIIc here 
(just to get a basic idea of subsonic junk going on in mixes) and am wondering 
the best and or easiest way to go forward.
adding the sub in parallel with say the speaker A outs (on which there is a set 
of active Dynaudio bm6a) effectively lowering the input imp. seen by the master 
module i take it is not the way to go....
my initial thought is to take a line out of the 2-mix #3 in the patchbay and 
send that to the sub... i really wanted to be able to switch it out though when 
i am on the smaller avantone monitors on speaker select A.

any tips from people using subs on their older neotek setups?

thanks!!

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