On 06/13/2012 10:59 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Sebastian Trüg <[email protected]
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better add the ticket. Even if there will be no more discussion.
Back in the beginning we decided to let every change go through a
ticket...
Btw, tracker have added those 2 exact properties in their version of
SDO. For more than a year.
Just saying.
And as always not contributing back. :(
On 06/13/2012 10:30 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:
Two versions are good to me. Then what's next? May I add the
ticket with
nmm:albumArtist and nmm:albumProducer or it's unnecessary as you
are the
maintainer?
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On 06/13/2012 04:00 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:
Well, I forgot classic music so I was wrong :P.
nmm:albumPerformer, with a cardinality 0:n is totally right.
It's not
handled by id3 tags but for classic music is in several
cases
the main
difference between two music albums.
I can, however, see your point regarding the other
arguments. For
non-classical music albumArtist does make more sense than
albumPerformer. In the end the albumPerformers are all the
performers of the individual tracks. But the artist is the,
well,
artist who labels the album.
So in the end I am voting for nmm:albumProducer and
nmm:albumArtist.
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On 06/13/2012 11:04 AM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:
Hi,
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On 06/10/2012 08:32 PM, Ignacio Serantes
wrote:
I brief update status.
1) I just fix multiple performers bug in
flac analyzer.
2) nmm:albumArtist seems to be
related to DB
structure and is not a
coding bug. I just added
nmm:albumArtist to
SDO and
now there is a
nmm:albumArtist in nmm:MusicAlbum.
This is
the code
I added:
nmm:albumArtist
a rdf:Property,
nrl:DefiningProperty ;
rdfs:subPropertyOf
nco:contributor ;
rdfs:label "album artist" ;
rdfs:comment "Album artist" ;
rdfs:domain nmm:MusicAlbum ;
rdfs:range nco:Contact .
This looks good. I am only concerned
about having
performer and
producer on the tracks and artist on the
album.
Shouldn't that be in
sync somehow? After all an album is also
produced, right? A
compilation has a producer and each
track has a
possibly
different
producer...
This is right but as there is no tag for album
producer this
information
can not be obtained from the music file so
this is
outside
my actual
goals. Album producers can be obtained using a
query, as I'm
doing in
Nepoogle for album performers.
What I mean is we need nmm:albumProducer and
nmm:albumPerformer.
What do you think?
nmm:albumProducer don't bothers but I'm not sure about
nmm:albumPerformer. Performer is the "performer" and
not the
album
artist, yes my Engrish is bad. An album artist is a
good field
because and album always have an associated artist:
Queen,
ELO or
Various artists, but in the real world there is not
a performer
associated with the album but is associated to music
piece.
Album producer is not the same case because, sometimes,
there is a
general album producer and other producers for music
pieces. So
album producer and artist producer are the same case
but not for
performers, lyricists or composers. It's right that
many times
performers, lyricist or composers are the same for
all the music
album but I still consider that this are music piece
fields.
I will upload a patch to Review
Board for
the first
one but,
what must I
do with the second one?
The normal approach is to create a ticket at
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Ok, thank you. I will add a ticket.
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Hi,
I detect next issues with music
albums
scanning
flac and mp3
formats:
1) Performers:
* mp3: supports it but it
wrongly adding
nmm:albumArtist
too and
this must be related to
nmm:MusicAlbum.
* flac: only adds one
performer, the last
added to the file?.
nmm:musicArtist it's not
imported and an
error is launched:
"Cannot set values for abstract property
'http://www.semanticdesktop.________org/ontologies/2009/02/19/____nmm#____albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.______org/ontologies/2009/02/19/__nmm#____albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.____org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#____albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.__org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#__albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#albumArtist>>>>'
<http://www.semanticdesktop.________org/ontologies/2009/02/19/____nmm#____albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.______org/ontologies/2009/02/19/__nmm#____albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.____org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#____albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.__org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#__albumArtist
<http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#albumArtist>>>>'>.".
Solution:
* 0 to n nmm:albumArtist
resources must be
added to
nmm:MusicAlbum.
* 0 to n nmm:performer
resources must
be added to
nmm:MusicPiece.
2) Albums:
* there is no url in
nmm:MusicAlbum so two
different
albums with
same name are considered one
unique
resource.
* determine album url is
tricky, you
need to
obtain the
url from a
track, a method complicated
because
previous
problem.
Solution:
* add nie:url to albums.
* two albums with same name but
different path
are different
albums. This have a side
effect with
sets if
sets are in
different paths, but I think is
better that
sets are
considered
different albums, than two
different
albums
are the same
resource. On the other side,
this
could be
handle with some
smart path detection
assuming some
kind of
organization with
paths. Other solution could
be using
nmm:albumArtis to
determine
if two albums are different
but, then we
have the
problem with
various artists compilations.
* added nfo:depiction as a
cover, an image
that could be
handled
by Bangarang or Nepoogle.
* maybe more nfo:depiction for
scans?
3) Genres:
* mp3: is not working.
* flac: works fine, supporting
unlimited genres.
Solution:
* bug with mp3 files must be
fixed.
4) Sets:
* there is no total tracks per
set.
* the total tracks is equal to
the total
tracks number in
the last
track scanned.
Solution:
* a solution similar as seasons in
tvshows.
* a total tracks and a total
tracks
per set
must be handled.
I'm only using flac and mp3 so
the same
or other
issues
could be in
other music formats.
Sets problems is a minor issue,
but the
other
three, must be
fixed.
As practically all my music is
in flac
format I
will try to fix
problems 1 and 2 in flac
analyzer, I'm
crossing
my fingers
because
is C++, but I wish to hear
comments/suggestions
before begin
to code.
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