SORRY FOR ANY DUPLICATES ... I'm just learning how to use this list.

Blessings Wes!

Thank you for your response. I'm mostly just an appliance user, and with STDOUT/STDERR being transparent in (nearly all?) terminal windows I never considered the possibility of any differences.

I have run Linux Mint Mate 64-bit LiveMedia from a locked Kanguru USB thumbdrive for quite a few years. For various reasons, whenever I use a new package, I always download the 'deb' file and write a loader script and insert them into an 'app' partition on my boot drive and then re-lock it. I have done this MANY times. The script ALWAYS checks to see if the app is already installed and always uses some variation of:

    [fetch app version to terminal] | grep -q [unique identifier]

"net-snmp" is the FIRST app EVER that has failed this procedure FOR ME (YMMV). Since I hadn't ever encountered the STDERR alternative, it was definitely a new problem for ME, and I thought it appropriate to relay this information to the team.

I can understand your frustration as well ... it sounds like a good question for Linus. Whether it is '--help' or '-V', I vote for the STDOUT channel, but then I have no idea what that would mean to anyone who does it the 'other way'.

In any case, THANK YOU ALL for net-snmp. It is a very handy utility for my playground! Right now I'm working with a little managed switch and my TV and Disc Player remote controls and an Arduino Pro Mini and a Wiznet Ethernet dongle to CUT OFF the Ethernet to my "smart"(sic) TV monitor that is ALWAYS busy doing "phone home" no matter what my Media Computer system is doing - but - sometimes we use it for free Internet TV.

OK - Blessings in abundance, all the best, & Stay Well!
Art in Carlisle PA USA


On 05/25/2021 07:02 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote:
Webtest <imad...@embarqmail.com> writes:

The reason is that "snmpget -V" returns the VERSION, but it returns it
on STDERR ... NOT STDOUT as it is supposed to ???

Well, "supposed to" is an interesting statement.  I wonder how many
packages do stdout vs stderr.  I know I have a lot of frustration trying
to figure out which applications in /usr/bin send --help to stdout vs
stderr.  There doesn't seem to be a convention.



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