Yes, lovely! Especially these lines

As if a crowd of static dancers all at once
Heard music and began to move,
Neither humbly nor all as one
But also both.

and these

To behold
Not struggling, to become the river,
The way and its power...

This and Alan's piece have made my day!

Edward



On 26/08/2019 18:01, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
Yes it is a marvelous piece of work, Max!
Nice to see you on here :)

On Monday, August 26, 2019, 4:17:35 PM GMT+1, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:


This is beautiful! I must say, David Bohm is from my hometown of Wilkes-Barre PA; Azure and I visited his old home which is now a television store; earlier, when I was in London I had several conversations with him (I didn't know then he was from WB). I was and still am fascinated by the implicate order. I love your piece by the way! :-)

Best, Alan

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Max Herman via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org <mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>> wrote:

    David Bohm told of a different intelligence
    A kind no village has ever achieved.
    What is it?  He asked in /On Dialogue./
    Something like "rearranges old material
    In a way never seen before,"
    Birnam to Dunsinane
    Which then becomes normal and standard after
    An apt and handy image, idea.
    This James Austin said in his book on rabbits.

    Bohm said the new intelligence
    A through-communication of natural intelligence
    Regaining or re-attaining
    A quantity of motion of a moving body
    And more than one of each
    Might add an order of magnitude
    Well-suited, equative in time, to heliotropic
    Brains attuning like antennae
    More and more, on more levels.

    As if a crowd of static dancers all at once
    Heard music and began to move,
    Neither humbly nor all as one
    But also both.  Meanwhile detectives,
    Always sorting, ask like Olaf Sporns
    Are brains networks; f yes how many.
    Are people; f yes what follows.
    Calvino added novels, arguing yes
    In memo five of six, the last lost, on Bartleby.

    What is eternal return?  Present to past?
    What is stillness, could it be
    "The quiet that we can know,
    The quiet of a strong heart at peace"?
    Alive but after death.  To behold
    Not struggling, to become the river,
    The way and its power,
    Celestial worthy of primordial beginnings,
    The laying-up of numinous treasure.


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    *Subject:* [NetBehaviour] My Struggle

    My Struggle

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    My struggle which is something I have had as a "concern" in the
    sense that a firm operating on narrow margins might be considered
    the same, as if there were an economy of wood and shoes always at
    work, into the evening when the others have gone home. Like that it
    is, the houses too are wooden with clotheslines stretched among
    them, tying the community together. My Struggle is one of the
    inadequacy of flesh, inadequacy which abjures the mind, held in an
    uneasy casket. Adequacy is not the same as a statement for example
    an example state which might just do; it is also indicative of a
    good fit, as David Bohm might say, to the extent art possesses a
    foundation of fitting. Inadequacy undermines adequacy, and it is in
    this undermining that art becomes an occurrence, however limiting
    that might be. What haunts me is of no regard, sophomoric, almost
    meaning draining itself out. Something, a pail, catches the water
    which has rinsed the wash, baptism of inordinate sparkling, the
    plain perhaps where riders entered the world, whirling whips, the
    weather pouring down from the sky, a faucet which is everywhere at
    once - "they all are, she said" just there on the corner where the
    paths met, shadows foregrounding the moment which stays with me,
    haunts me forever, My Struggle. Now it is a different world, she
    said, it is always a different world, look, electricity. The water
    was carried in wooden pails placed on boards near the clotheslines
    until their calling came to a kind of agriculture, the clothes and
    others miraculously drying in what could only be considered a trope
    of humidity, a gauge against which proverbs are measured, depleted,
    lost in time. We're all gone now, the world is far crueler than I
    had ever imagined it to be; what was outside as entered through the
    sloughs of my heart, and I have found this far too inadequate, even
    my inadequacy is a failure. She gathers the clothes, and now from
    this a characteristic wave emanating from catastrophe theory is
    there, within and without a moment of My Struggle. For I want to
    understand things, the windows with broken panes, the rough paths
    and patched roofs, the village. It is there in my mind and I am
    sitting at a rough wooden desk, writing this while the world burns,
    melts, disappears, taking the short road to extinctions. My
    Struggle invades my body and it is my body and I lay claim to it,
    not even God can take that away; it is as if a nail were driven
    through my heart in parallel with a circuit of despair, the
    breakdown of the committees for the poor, kindnesses of
    tax-gatherers, the release and relief of the world. It seems to
    have something to do with money, with skin and wood and the
    lightest touch of a hand just below the shoulder, the back a rim,
    supple and resonant. My struggle is with the political violence of
    the day, the manifesto and demand ridings. When I turn around my
    past unravels a set amount of horror, despair, disruption, I am
    sure I am a killer manque and continuous, people falling left and
    right, those who don't despise me. There are no people in my
    pictures, my people aren't pictured, there are waysides. At night I
    dreamed myself a savior beneath the covers, "just there," it
    occurred to the mother of the family to have me speak to others
    about the phenomenon of salvation, I'd heard too much. What a word
    of it I did believe, the wind picking up every so slightly, the air
    moist, the clothes hanging, so many carapaces of taut events held
    so long ago as a week or decade. None of us ever complete any of
    it. Those scenes return to haunt us, or we live them rising slowly
    like heaves, clothes, blouses, pants, above the surface. It cannot,
    it dare not, cohere. This is My Struggle with the world and its
    cruelty, the world and its annihilations to the limit. I am where
    no limit is. I am in a nondescript area, grey forest or city, empty
    village, abandoned mine, crumbling church. I've left my shadow
    alone, my shadow is there, is it, it is My Struggle.

    The words are in revolt. They are hardly present. They rest in
    mouths. They turn flesh inside-out, quantum mechanics unravels much
    brilliance. The manuscripts remained in their folders, someone sang
    a lullaby, there were shots in the distance, smoke in the sky, a
    song about how little it lasted an alas, how little it lasted a
    lass. The resonance of "armistice" for a moment along the path,
    willows overhanging an earth far too dry. My Struggle is with my
    eyes, blurry now, with evil which is always already inconceivable,
    who could believe such a thing except of others. My Struggle is
    with solder and clay. My life has had its horrors. I will build
    them into bricks out of models. I find I cannot write more now, and
    wonder if you get, absorb the idea, as i forgo now checking what i
    have written and with what clarity (that word again), what
    astuteness. A quote is a jail for what never occurs with words. The
    revolt of the words takes itself toll on words, constitutional
    amendments, I am breaking down over so many of them. I will leave
    these errors. My life in error,the eruption of the inconceivable,
    that is the lungs of the world. It is better to put things off. It
    is better to put things off than to take them off. I am testing
    language into the hour of the morning. I know the difference
    between the birds. The clotheslines stretch among the houses,
    porches, chairs, rake leaning against pole, hoe against trunk of
    leaves. Something, a pail, catches the water which had rinsed the
    wash, and the water to come, cool and sparkling somewhere.

    There are riders on the plain moving in the way of an other. They
    leave an empty world, leave the waters, the pails, the boards. ---
    The stranger asks what is an error. What "are our" shoulders for.
    windows with < broken panes, the rough paths and patched roofs, the
    village. It < is there in my mind and I am sitting at a rough
    wooden desk, < writing this while the world burns, melts,
    disappears, taking < the short road to extinctions. My Struggle
    invades me < it is my body and I lay claim to it, not even Christ
    can take < that away; it is as if a nail were driven through my
    heart in < parallel with a circuit of despair, the breakdown of the
    < committees for the poor, kindness of tax-gatherers, the release <
    and relief of the world. It seems to have something to do with <
    money, with skin and wood and the lightest touch of a hand just <
    below the shoulder, the back a rim, supple and resonant. My <
    struggle is with the political violence of the day, the < manifesto
    of the damned ridings. When I turn around my past < unravels a set
    amount of horror, despair, disruption, I am sure < I am a killer
    manque and continuous, people falling left and ---

    >  Struggle. For I want to understand things, the windows with
    >  broken panes, the rough paths and patched roofs, the village. It
    >  is there in my mind and I am sitting at a rough wooden desk,
    >  writing this while the world burns, melts, disappears, taking the
    >  short road to extinctions. My Struggle invades my body and it is
    >  my body and I lay claim to it, not even Christ can take that
    >  away; it is as if a nail were driven through my heart in parallel
    >  with a circuit of despair, the breakdown of the committees for
    >  the poor, kindliness of tax-gatherers, releasing, relieving the
    >  world. Stone and clean washing, with skin and wood and the
    >  lightest touch of a hand just below the shoulder, the back a rim,
    >  supple and resonant. My struggle is there with you, the manifesto
    >  and demand ridings. When I return my past unravels a set amount
    >  of horror, despair, disruption, I am sure I am a killer manque
    >  and continuous, people falling left and
    53,67c51,65

    < pictures, my people aren't pictured, there are waysides. At <
    night I dreamed myself a savior beneath the covers, "just <
    there,' it occurred to the mother of the family to have me speak <
    to others about the phenomenon of salvation, I'd heard too much. <
    What a word of it I did believe, the wind picking up every so <
    slightly, the air moist, the clothes hanging, so many carapaces <
    of taut events held so long ago as a week or decade. None of us <
    ever complete any of it. Those scenes return to haunt us, or we <
    live in those scenes rising slowly like heaves, clothes, <
    blouses, pants, above the surface. It cannot, it dare not, <
    cohere. This is My Struggle with the world and its cruelty, the <
    >  pictures, my people aren't pictured, there are waysides. At night
    >  I dreamed myself a savior beneath the covers, "just there,' it
    >  occurred to the mother of the family to have me speak to others
    >  about the phenomenon of salvation, I've heard too much. What a
    >  word of it I did believe, the wind picking up every so slightly,
    >  the air wet, the clothes taut, so many memoranda of events born
    >  and held so long ago as a week or decade. None of us ever
    >  complete any of it. They return to haunt us, or we live in them,
    >  in those scenes rising slowly like heaves, clothes, blouses,
    >  pants, above the surface. It cannot, it dare not, cohere. This is
    >  My Struggle with the senselessness of the world and its limitless
    >  darknesss. I am where no limit is. I am in a nondescript area,
    >  grey forest or city, empty village, abandoned mine, crumbling
    >  church. I've left my shadow alone, my shadow is there, is it, it
    >  is My Struggle, it is.

    the night, the talons, for it is said, no one has a place, no one
    has ever found one

    death taking them home, everyone relieved, clean clothes

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