Hi James,

james jwm-art net said :
> Hi Aymeric, everyone,
> 
> Sorry reply is a bit late now..

mine too :)

> >Concerning Debian, I can't recall if I mentionned it previously, our
> >goal is also not to leave our packages in a nich repository, the mid
> >term plan for the pure:dyne team is to start moving as much things as
> >possible in Debian itself, so it will benefit to an even wider
> >audience.
> 
> Good stuff. But does this mean pure:dyne is a tempory project? Or will
> pure:dyne be more cutting edge than Debian? Certainly though, Debian is
> not tailored in the same way as the multimedia specific distros.

pure:dyne is not a temp project. pure:dyne as a whole aim to produce a
good environment for media artists to work and make art with free
software, and that mean the operating system, but also a serie of
workshop outlines and material publicaly available, and a collection of
HOWTO and tutorial targetted to artist needs.

On the operating system, we also focus on the live distro aspects, so
how to build a system that can be used an booted in all kind of weird
situations, on all kind of exotic medium and hardware (as long as it is
x86 ... for now).

As mentionned previously, pure:dyne is based on 3 repos Debian testing,
Marillat's Multimedia repos and ours. So In the end it doesn't matter at
all for us if a package is coming from our repos or Debian's, because
the 3 are combined in the process of building the live distro. On the
other hand we find important to not keep this stuff in a niche repos 
(like it is done with a lot of launchpad-like repos on Ubuntu) and we
don't want to have to branch completely Debian neither (like 64
Studio does). So we just aim to contribute as much as possible to the
mothership and only keep software in our repos that cannot be included
in Debian.

The live distro will always be available, like it is now, as a very
specific system, build on top of Debian. As you said Debian is not
tailored in the same way as some multimedias distro, it is beyond the
scope of this email to try to explain why from the technical, historical 
and also political reasons, but to keep it short, yes Debian sucks for
these type of things, but we're crazy enough to think that we can try to
move things forward :)
(and also help the Debian developers and maintainers who think
multimedia is not only about playing pr0n DVDrips).


> >There are no CD/DVD available to order, it's only available as direct
> >downloads or torrents.
> >http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne/wiki/GetPureDyne
> >
> >But, the next milestone, leek and potato, will be available as liveUSB
> >keys that we will sell, we're still trying to figure out how to do that
> >with as little extra cost added to make it cheap, but sustainable. For
> >those in London tonight, you'll be able to get one or see it in action.
> 
> I'm in the dark ages of the 'net here. No broadband and it's hassle to
> get friends to download ISO's for me, so a liveUSB key would be a good
> thing for people like me. Hopefully BT is (going to be/meant to be??)
> rolling out upgrades to it's exchanges in the not-too-distant future.

Ah I see, if you subscribe to the GOTO10 list, we'll probably announce
the liveUSB thingy there when it's ready to order.
Also, if you send me your snail-mail address off-list I can post you an
ISO of the latest dev version. you should be able to cat it in an ISO
file later on, and rsync over the final one, should be OK on a dialup.

a.

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